If you could change/create one hunting reg/law, what would it be?

[B Wilson]

Which part did you need explained?

The first part? Where I reference the current party hunting system making it far too easy for groups to use tags from friends/family/etc who don't actually participate in the hunt.

It is just as easy for you to sit in a tree stand watching your big oil' bait pile and use your wife's cousins sisters ex boyfriends tag to shoot a second deer during the archery season

Does it happen? Yes
Is it only done by party hunting groups? Nope, far from it. Individuals do it often

ilegally attaching a game seal is an entirely separate issue from legal white tail party hunting

[topher]

party Hunting for waterfowl...

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[DanO]

I also find it very interesting who in this thread wants to IMPOSE FURTHER RESTRICTIONS vs loosening restrictions which in many ways are archaic and no longer relevant.

I haven't hunted outside of Ontario so I would like to hear from well-traveled hunters who can compare Ontario's restrictions to those in other areas of North America. I get the feeling watch game warden shows from other areas that Ontario is the wild west. There are areas that don't allow party hunting for deer, or baiting or additional game seals for deer. I don't think we're regulated wisely in Ontario.

[arclight]

Which part did you need explained?

The first part? Where I reference the current party hunting system making it far too easy for groups to use tags from friends/family/etc who don't actually participate in the hunt. There's a whole new thread started for that topic. See "Gaming the tag system" thread.

Or where I make reference to the mentality of 'shoot as many as possible within the time allotted' created by a system that puts 'x' number of tags at your disposal?

Either way, that's the 1 rule I would change per the topic of this thread. Sorry if it ruffles some feathers around here.

If people are using tags that don't belong to them, then they take the risk o getting charged. It is an offence now. But if you are party hunting an you can a opportunity to take a few deer then by all means, go for it.

[LowbanksArcher]

It is just as easy for you to sit in a tree stand watching your big oil' bait pile and use your wife's cousins sisters ex boyfriends tag to shoot a second deer during the archery season

Does it happen? Yes
Is it only done by party hunting groups? Nope, far from it. Individuals do it often

ilegally attaching a game seal is an entirely separate issue from legal white tail party hunting

I think you're misunderstanding the aspect of 'party hunting' that some of us find to be a problem. It's nothing to do with hunting as a group. It's the general acceptance it creates in having someone else's tag on game they haven't taken. And YES, archery hunters are just as bad, maybe worse. (Not sure why archery keeps getting brought up. Maybe i need to change my screen name.) Yes, many bowhunters fill others tags who aren't actually participating in the hunt. Yes, it's illegal. It's poaching. But many still do it because it's easy to get away with with the current system where no one thinks twice seeing your brother-in-laws tag on your deer.

Now let's not derail this thread any longer. Jump over to the "Gaming the system" thread to discuss this topic further if you like.

[bellerivercrossbowhunter]

I'd eliminate party hunting for whitetails. Shoot your tag, then get out of the bush. Like Alberta.

This is a tough one but I see your point.

In my case a group of us (7) rent a cabin for a week in 92B for the M/L hunt. So if I shot the first deer in the first 10min of the hunt my week of cabin rental would be a complete waste. That doesn't sit well with me & no I wouldn't want to become the camp cook... LOL

Like I said I do see the advantages of this for the herd. It would eliminate the skilled hunters in the first few days & let the others have a chance to become skilled if they want to fill there tag.

I for one am glad we have party hunting.

[Snowwalker]

......don't want to become the camp cook... LOL

You may find your fellow camp members agree....

[myot]

encasing of a bow. if an arrow isn't nocked it can't be fired pretty simple.

a 1 for one tag system on deer/coyotes up to a max of 2/person. So you want a deer tag go shot or trap a coyote show proof of the kill then you are eligible for a deer tag

Dan

[biggamer]

I've hunted in a few different jurisdictions south of the border...they know how to manage hunters as well as game far better than Ontario in my opinion. There are a lot of less restrictive rules in place for the day to day stuff but one thing that is strongly enforced is the actual hunting act and the use of off road vehicles.

All places I've been you must shoot your own animal, tag it with your tag, and you're done hunting....ATV use is strictly regulated and you don't dare get caught on public land off a maintained trail or road. It's a great experience to wonder miles of woods and mountains without stepping in quad tire ruts and flattened landscape. You also don't cut living trees down for firewood and leave no trace when camping.

We in Ontario are so blind to the impact of off road vehicles both in the population equation of our animals as well as the impact on our wetlands and forest areas. A fella can cover 100 miles before noon on a quad hunting in the big clear cuts of northern ontario, a huge day in Colorado or Idaho on foot might be 4 or 5 miles! The OFAH and other organizations push for more use and access to crown land, I agree totally! But make it non motorized areas and let's use our two feet/canoes/bicycle to get there. Opening up huge tracts of land so a bunch of "hunters" can roar back and forth on the roads all day aboard their snorkel equipped/27" mudszilla tire quads, hoping to intercept a crossing moose or deer, is a recipe for species depletion and defeats any gains we have made as far as our hunting tradition and ethics. I hunted parry sound area this fall for deer. I sat for 7 days and there wasn't one hour go by where I didn't hear or see guys ripping around. I spent 14 days on a self guided elk hunt in Colorado and saw one hunter on foot up close and two on horseback through binos over a mile away. I also saw one piece of garbage on that trip that likely fell from a backpack. I'm disgusted as to what people leave in our woods here, makes me cringe.

But we can't see the forest for the trees here and blame everyone but ourselves for our issues. I own a quad myself so I'm not against them, just an advocate for their proper use as far as crown land goes. If you own a couple hundred acres and wanna rip the hell out of it go nuts, just don't do it on public land that was granted to us for all to enjoy and marvel at. It's. Pretty simple concept really, leave it the way you found it, or better.....

[DanO]

I've hunted in a few different jurisdictions south of the border...they know how to manage hunters as well as game far better than Ontario in my opinion. There are a lot of less restrictive rules in place for the day to day stuff but one thing that is strongly enforced is the actual hunting act and the use of off road vehicles.

All places I've been you must shoot your own animal, tag it with your tag, and you're done hunting....ATV use is strictly regulated and you don't dare get caught on public land off a maintained trail or road. It's a great experience to wonder miles of woods and mountains without stepping in quad tire ruts and flattened landscape. You also don't cut living trees down for firewood and leave no trace when camping.

We in Ontario are so blind to the impact of off road vehicles both in the population equation of our animals as well as the impact on our wetlands and forest areas. A fella can cover 100 miles before noon on a quad hunting in the big clear cuts of northern ontario, a huge day in Colorado or Idaho on foot might be 4 or 5 miles! The OFAH and other organizations push for more use and access to crown land, I agree totally! But make it non motorized areas and let's use our two feet/canoes/bicycle to get there. Opening up huge tracts of land so a bunch of "hunters" can roar back and forth on the roads all day aboard their snorkel equipped/27" mudszilla tire quads, hoping to intercept a crossing moose or deer, is a recipe for species depletion and defeats any gains we have made as far as our hunting tradition and ethics. I hunted parry sound area this fall for deer. I sat for 7 days and there wasn't one hour go by where I didn't hear or see guys ripping around. I spent 14 days on a self guided elk hunt in Colorado and saw one hunter on foot up close and two on horseback through bunks over a mile away. I also saw one piece of garbage on that trip that likely fell from a backpack. I'm disgusted as to what people leave in our woods here, makes me cringe.

But we can't see the forest for the trees here and blame everyone but ourselves for our issues. I own a quad myself so I'm not against them, just an advocate for their proper use as far as crown land goes. If you own a couple hundred acres and wanna rip the hell out of it go nuts, just don't do it on public land that was granted to us for all to enjoy and marvel at. It's. Pretty simple concept really, leave it the way you found it, or better.....

Exactly what many of us have been asking for but I'm shocked at how many on this Board think we're over regulated already! Thanks for posting. One tag = one hunter = one kill then hunt something else .... sounds fair to me.