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February 13th, 2016, 11:28 AM
#201
More food for thought.... the RCMP prohibited the Mossberg Blaze 47 22lr semi auto rifle because it was a AK varient..... yet will allow the Type 81 in to Canada. It is too bad the firearms lab does not publish their reports on various firearms explaining why they are "bad".
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February 13th, 2016 11:28 AM
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February 13th, 2016, 11:40 AM
#202
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
arclight
If the RCMP and the Liberals want "assault" weapons off the street, why did the Queen's Cowboys issue a FRT for the Norinco Type 81???? The National Post has a article saying that the classification process has been handed back to the RCMP. Are they going to prohibit the CSA and Swiss Arms rifles again?? There is no rhyme or reason to it.
Not a clue why... there seems to be two ideas and talking out of both sides of their face... I expect to see changes and "orders in council" soon given the rhetoric in the iPolitics (Swiss probably but maybe even reversing those same firearms just approved) but time will tell.
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/ca...mp-bureaucrats
We will see if the Cukliers and freedom hating crowd win or those that enjoy freedom. Given the more usual Liberal head in the sand or anti- attitude (ex. Alan Rock, Liberal Youth...) I suspect a fast end to freedoms in Canada and rapid increase in taxes inspired by Gerald Butts etc.
Last edited by mosquito; February 13th, 2016 at 01:23 PM.
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February 13th, 2016, 12:03 PM
#203

Originally Posted by
arclight
More food for thought.... the RCMP prohibited the Mossberg Blaze 47 22lr semi auto rifle because it was a AK varient..... yet will allow the Type 81 in to Canada. It is too bad the firearms lab does not publish their reports on various firearms explaining why they are "bad".
This is actually the key problem: a lack of transparency in the process.
More than anything else, this is the problem with the RCMP having control over classification: the RCMP culture (and police culture in general) promotes the idea that the agency is not accountable to the public and that its internal documents are secret. But the firearms classification process ought to be open, because classification is supposed to be based on hard criteria.
Meanwhile, a whole lot of silence from the Chicken Little crowd on the evil Liberals deferring marking regulations while the RCMP has classified some guns as non-restricted....
"The language of dogs and birds teaches you your own language."
-- Jim Harrison (1937 - 2016)
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February 13th, 2016, 12:21 PM
#204

Originally Posted by
welsh
This is actually the key problem: a lack of transparency in the process.
More than anything else, this is the problem with the RCMP having control over classification: the RCMP culture (and police culture in general) promotes the idea that the agency is not accountable to the public and that its internal documents are secret. But the firearms classification process ought to be open, because classification is supposed to be based on hard criteria.
Meanwhile, a whole lot of silence from the Chicken Little crowd on the evil Liberals deferring marking regulations while the RCMP has classified some guns as non-restricted....
I agree. I will write to my liberal MP asking why the process can't be transparent. I wonder if a Freedom of information request to the lab would work?
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February 13th, 2016, 02:29 PM
#205
Who will pay for the half trillion that the Liberals are going to run up. Justin has actually said the sky is now the limit expect a 100 Billion deficit this year alone. Hey can we garnish your check?? 

Originally Posted by
Gilroy
The people of Canada have already spoken clearly on who they trust to run this country,from coast to coast riding to riding.Sunny ways my friends,Sunny ways.
P. Dont spill yur coffee.LOL
"This is about unenforceable registration of weapons that violates the rights of people to own firearms."—Premier Ralph Klein (Alberta)Calgary Herald, 1998 October 9 (November 1, 1942 – March 29, 2013) OFAH Member
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February 13th, 2016, 02:46 PM
#206

Originally Posted by
arclight
I agree. I will write to my liberal MP asking why the process can't be transparent. I wonder if a Freedom of information request to the lab would work?
I suspect they'd cite public safety, saying they can't inform the public about how a given firearm might be converted to full auto because this amounts to providing an instruction manual. My answer to that is fair enough, but a redacted version of the report needs to be released to the public when the classification decision is announced.
Given that the Liberals have made a good deal of noise about open government, I expect them to live up to it.
"The language of dogs and birds teaches you your own language."
-- Jim Harrison (1937 - 2016)
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February 13th, 2016, 03:52 PM
#207

Originally Posted by
greatwhite
Who will pay for the half trillion that the Liberals are going to run up. Justin has actually said the sky is now the limit expect a 100 Billion deficit this year alone. Hey can we garnish your check??

We just had a full decade of Conservative fear mongering, it must be depressing to go around feeling repressed all the time.If your brand of government did not leave a surplus on leaving office,which they did not,why would you attack the newly elected peoples choice.
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February 13th, 2016, 04:08 PM
#208
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
Gilroy
We just had a full decade of Conservative fear mongering, it must be depressing to go around feeling repressed all the time.If your brand of government did not leave a surplus on leaving office,which they did not,why would you attack the newly elected peoples choice.
Yeah.. but the ones that were doing all the fear mongering are the ones now in power tragically.... fear of Canadian security, fear of Canadian laws getting too tough, fears of the middle class and rich making money, fear of firearms... we have had a decade of the left fear mongering and rhetoric. Sadly those doing the rants have also taken a projected surplus and blown $4,000,000,000 to make it a deficit in 2 months, handed a win over to ISIL, got us excluded from high level meetings, our PM shows up for fashion shoots but at churches where Canadians were killed he instead goes to a mosque to do selfies.... 10 years and the light was starting to shine through the window even through the sh** being thrown and now once again the blinds are being closed and the dark ages are starting again.
A perfect example is the ipolitics article with Cuklier in it, fear of firearms and legal owners and blame for Harper putting into place laws that gave criminals mandatory sentences (Trudeau said would be rolled back), made it easier for firearm owners (C-42 etc being rolled back and UN planned to be implemented... + more) put in place tax cuts that left billions in Canadians pockets (Trudeau will reverse that and take take take....). It also seems more fear of law abiding citizens/police and military in Canada than people in the world that said they would take over and kill Canadians (as in the example of those recently killed in Africa while helping build a school).... the people's choice was elected with a lower % of voters than the previous Conservative victory and by less than 4 out of 10 voters... hardly the majority of the peoples choice but boy look at the self entitlement coming from them!
Last edited by mosquito; February 13th, 2016 at 04:11 PM.
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February 13th, 2016, 04:16 PM
#209
'Harper putting into place laws that gave criminals mandatory sentences'
Like I pointed out before sounded like a good move but now we have a serving Toronto Police officer going into the slammer for a 4 year mandatory,was it still a good move.
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February 13th, 2016, 04:20 PM
#210

Originally Posted by
mosquito
.... the people's choice was elected with a lower % of voters than the previous Conservative victory and by less than 4 out of 10 voters... hardly the majority of the peoples choice but boy look at the self entitlement coming from them!
Good post....yes they only achieved 31.9% of the popular vote..in fact just about where Trump is sitting...no accounting for stupidity of voters .