Throne Speech: Liberals to introduce Gun control measures

[terrym]

Exactly. The Internet and social media are now where elections get fought on. Obama mastered it to take the Whitehouse and no campaign will ever be won the old way again. The Libs are rolling in the power afforded by s majority and really couldn't care less if somebody emails them at this point. Almost 4 years left to implement the activist agenda and you are kidding yourself if you think gun control will be dealt with in the first months of this government. It will happen when they think there are seats to be won over it.

[welsh]

If you think letters to MPs have no impact, you're simply wrong. If you think posting on social media has more impact than writing a letter, you're laughably wrong.

It's called slacktivism for a reason.

[terrym]

Actually I write my MP and MPP ( both Conservatives) more than you would think. I also financially support my candidates and always have the first PC sign on my lawn during elections. Also recently carpet bombed our mayor, city manager and counciller about Sunday hunting. The Municipal ones are far more exposed and responsive. The libranos have a majority and couldn't care less about individuals who aren't party members. I'm sure the Cons were no different.

[arclight]

I'm reminded of the old adage...."Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not out to get you"....

Excellent point Welsh.

However, the firearms climate in this country has definitely changed lately. With the increased reportings of mass shootings in the US, public opinion is definitely being molded by our neighbors to the South. The RCMP and other entities have been quite aggressive in pushing an anti-firearms agenda ( see high river, and the aforementioned Swiss Arms and CZ858 fiasco). The current Federal Government has indeed made allusion to imposing more legislation, and the firearms community is very wary of this, since it was the previous Federal Liberal majority that pushed through C-68 under Allan Rock.

They will start on semi auto's first. Then they will come after the bolt actions. As they are sniper weapons......

[terrym]

They will start on semi auto's first. Then they will come after the bolt actions. As they are sniper weapons......

I think the bolt actions will be safe. To go after them would position them as completely anti gun and I don't think the Librano back room is ready yet to polarize the party like that. They swept the country so picked up a bunch of hunters too. If they were to for example disarm Newfoundland two things would happen a) a revolt and b) loss of the Province next election. Then there is the Aboriginal votes. How many households on reserves don't have firearms? Trudough owes the first nations vote too. It doesn't add up to many seats but it is symbolic and part of his marketing.
But it has begun. By stacking the advisory committee with anti gun activists and then giving the RCMP control of classification of firearms. Neither of these two groups want civilians to own firearms.

[welsh]

But it has begun. By stacking the advisory committee with anti gun activists and then giving the RCMP control of classification of firearms.

Point of order: while the Liberals clearly intend to do both, neither has yet been done.

The CFAC membership has yet to be named, so we have no idea to what degree it has been "stacked."

The RCMP will not have authority to classify firearms until legislation is passed giving them that authority.

Since we knew both of these things were coming as of election night -- both are in the Liberal platform -- nothing has really "begun" ... we're still waiting for the details.

[terrym]

He's still in his honeymoon phase saving the planet and undoing everything Harper did. Lot's of time left in his mandate to get to it.

[mosquito]

I think the bolt actions will be safe. To go after them would position them as completely anti gun and I don't think the Librano back room is ready yet to polarize the party like that. They swept the country so picked up a bunch of hunters too. If they were to for example disarm Newfoundland two things would happen a) a revolt and b) loss of the Province next election. Then there is the Aboriginal votes. How many households on reserves don't have firearms? Trudough owes the first nations vote too. It doesn't add up to many seats but it is symbolic and part of his marketing.
But it has begun. By stacking the advisory committee with anti gun activists and then giving the RCMP control of classification of firearms. Neither of these two groups want civilians to own firearms.

I would like to say I strongly agreed to you until the recent iPolitics aritcle that I talked about in depth here.
http://www.oodmag.com/community/show...l=1#post957353


Listening to the Resolution 151 too made me question just how far they would go, it seemed to be more about skip it until we are elected. Even at that about 20-30% of those voting were in favour of the resolution by looking at the cards raised.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsqquJfCHSM

Given the ipolitcs and seeing the vote on 151..... I have even less confidence in the Liberals choices other than thinking about getting elected and staying in power.

[JBen]

Curious Welsh.
You think letters to MPs is what's stopping the Liberals from re-introducing a LGR? Or public opinion........
Where is that battle "being fought"?

Do you think Ms Wynnes re-introduction of the Spring bear hunt was a result of letters?


If there's anything that's "laughable" it's your flippant disregard for it, especially given for someone who is so well read, you surely know it's changed the game.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3958533.html

Then theres data mining, which might arguably be the most important aspect. Especially given apathy these days. See also vote whipping..An MP could have a very large majority of constituents writing them letters, angry about X...Wont make a lick of difference if
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/gove...-act-1.2636905


And this..See young JT, the oh so slick and image conscious Justin Beiber wannabe
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/opini...ticle11698749/

To pretend that all politicans, parties don't pay very close attention to social media and public opinion, is to live in denial. And those battles are waged where?
Social media.

Can't think of a good current hot topic off hand, where they might go one way or the other ( perhaps the Energy East Pipeline??) though I guess the LGR might also suffice. If you really think they aren't watching social media very closely on the EEP.......
/don't know what to say.

Is it important to write letters. Sure it is.
But these days theres a far more powerful gauge with respect to which way winds are blowing, for them to use.

[JBen]

Though of a good example.

Syrian refugee's and their changes in stances, or perhaps reversal on ISIL commitments. Whether "we" read things, or post things here, and then make our "voices" heard here or on FB, or twitter, or cross post/share. I have no hesitation at all in suggesting the court of public opinion on websites/social media has had a lot to do with their policies on both.