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March 17th, 2016, 06:34 AM
#11
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
werner.reiche
Well we have plenty of deer and coyotes living together here in Ontario...so I guess coyotes don't hurt the deer population either. And they have CWD and deer in Wisconsin...
The trend of deer tag allocation always been up where I come from. IMO, boar have little to do with deer population, coyote and CWD a little more....
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March 17th, 2016 06:34 AM
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March 17th, 2016, 06:52 AM
#12

Originally Posted by
Grasu200
i agree - it would be childish to think they feed on bambies.... Ontario is very much an ideal habitat and they are a great game...
Hogs will eat humans, they will eat anything they can get their hands on.
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March 17th, 2016, 08:42 AM
#13
Ask someone who has been to Hay Island what they think of pigs. Hay is adjacent to Griffith and White Cloud near Owen Sound. They definetly eat fawns!
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March 17th, 2016, 10:39 AM
#14
Bring them on, I don't think I will be around my the time the hogs are a problem. But they will be here anyway, no one in the USA has solved the problem yet.
So to me it would be just another game to hunt and should not be a problem finding land to hunt them on, since the farmers will want to get them culled.
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March 17th, 2016, 10:49 AM
#15

Originally Posted by
JUDGE
Bring them on, I don't think I will be around my the time the hogs are a problem. But they will be here anyway, no one in the USA has solved the problem yet.
So to me it would be just another game to hunt and should not be a problem finding land to hunt them on, since the farmers will want to get them culled.
Not a farmer obviously.
I read stuff like this and it scares me, it is as if people want farmers to have problems so that they are allowed to hunt. Why not get permission to hunt by putting a few days or weeks into helping them bring in the harvest or clean out the stalls.
Wild hogs will be one of the worst ecological things that could potentially happen in Ontario, think like a conversationalist and fight to keep them out. If you want some cheap bacon buy a big and shoot it in your backyard.
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March 17th, 2016, 01:10 PM
#16
It's not a question of want.
They are coming and there is nothing you or I can do about it.[
I have several places to hunt so don't go off half cocked , and complain about my reply
QUOTE=Fox;963542]Not a farmer obviously.
I read stuff like this and it scares me, it is as if people want farmers to have problems so that they are allowed to hunt. Why not get permission to hunt by putting a few days or weeks into helping them bring in the harvest or clean out the stalls.
Wild hogs will be one of the worst ecological things that could potentially happen in Ontario, think like a conversationalist and fight to keep them out. If you want some cheap bacon buy a big and shoot it in your backyard.[/QUOTE]
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March 17th, 2016, 01:20 PM
#17
No idea how they might impact Deer.
When I think of Boars showing up here, I think of Asian Carp only worse.
Will they?
Not so sure, they key I think might be preventing them getting a "foothold". Will take more than just a few breeding pairs to find their way here. If a small group happen to show up and find each other, discovering them shouldn't be near as hard, nor wiping them out wont be that hard at that point. Most farmers/hunters know the threat they pose and the MNR has the green light on them.
Shoot on sight.
When 1 or 2 "show" up theres immediate reaction. If 12 or so starting making noise.....I imagine their days are very numbered.
Had Texas had an exterminate with extreme predujice right from the get go? Who knows.
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March 17th, 2016, 01:38 PM
#18

Originally Posted by
JBen
No idea how they might impact Deer.
When I think of Boars showing up here, I think of Asian Carp only worse.
Will they?
Not so sure, they key I think might be preventing them getting a "foothold". Will take more than just a few breeding pairs to find their way here. If a small group happen to show up and find each other, discovering them shouldn't be near as hard, nor wiping them out wont be that hard at that point. Most farmers/hunters know the threat they pose and the MNR has the green light on them.
Shoot on sight.
When 1 or 2 "show" up theres immediate reaction. If 12 or so starting making noise.....I imagine their days are very numbered.
Had Texas had an exterminate with extreme predujice right from the get go? Who knows.
Vigilance should allow us to keep them from moving in but too many people who decide that they want another big game animal can throw that right out the window. In Texas and other southern areas where the pigs have been established since the 1700s, earlier in some places, they have changed a lot of the laws and opened up a lot of opportunities to remove animals that I do not know if we would see that happen here. There would need to be a huge push to stop them before they start and I do not see that happening, even feral animals being seen are a huge risk and need to be removed without people being all up in arms about it, that huge pig in Eastern Ontario, the owners should have paid a fine for letting something like that escape rather than being able to complain and say the animal should be taken from the guy who shot it.
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March 17th, 2016, 02:01 PM
#19
Despite my lack of faith in humanity Fox, it's still my belief that "most" people are good.
Today, more and more are aware of Asian Carp and the threat they pose. While there are still some who smuggle live Carp into Ontario and there are likely a lot who don't really know/understand or care...It's no longer "below the radar".
I don't think were seeing that push currently because it's just not on the radar "yet". If and when the odd one starts popping up more (As Asian Carp have) there will be more press, more warnings, the shoot on sight message will be spread more, along with the reasons why, and more of the public will become aware.
Not that long ago, about 4-6 years we used to say. Nothing will change about the bear problem, until some start popping up more and more around the GTA and Muskoka's or a kid gets mauled. Here we are today, more of the public understands more and had to 'see the threat".
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March 17th, 2016, 03:15 PM
#20
Has too much time on their hands
Or it could be just like Goby on Simcoe, not a bad deal afterall and a great food source for other species. No one is complaining to catch white fish in 12 fow.... Now, I do understand the impact of wild boar on properties, farm field, soccer/baseball ground, lawn and you name it but that just like bear damaging corn field.....
The issue with Texas, they still haven't undertstood how to hunt them. Killing them one at the time seating in a blind or a tree stand over a bait pill or using a pit bull and wait for it to catch one doesn't do it. This thing need to be kill by the dozen with hounds (just like coyote hunting) and that's why they finally found help from accross the ocean to teach them how to.
And I too believe they will be there someday.
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