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April 1st, 2016, 07:52 AM
#11

Originally Posted by
welsh
That's one of the strange ironies of our gun laws.
In North America, with plenty of wide open space to shoot, "silencers" became illegal because of the assumption they would be useful mostly to criminals -- an assumption fueled in large part by Hollywood. There is no meaningful movement to change this.
They don't even silence, they suppress, nothing a subsonic load in any rifle cannot do.
It is up there with making a 20in barrelled 223 restricted or prohibited because it looks like a gun used to fight wars.
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April 1st, 2016 07:52 AM
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April 1st, 2016, 08:20 AM
#12

Originally Posted by
Fox
They don't even silence, they suppress, nothing a subsonic load in any rifle cannot do.
I think everyone here is aware of that.
"The language of dogs and birds teaches you your own language."
-- Jim Harrison (1937 - 2016)
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April 1st, 2016, 08:31 AM
#13

Originally Posted by
dukesarcher
Can take out a lot of deer with a silencer though
Deer aren't that bothered by the sound of gunfire, they don't seem to make the association of it to danger. Many a time I have fired with in proximity to small group of deer and all they do is look up and they go back to eating.
So a 'moderator' would have no added benefit to hunting, unless you trying to keep humans from hearing it.
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April 1st, 2016, 08:44 AM
#14
More to the point, the rifle is still going to be noisy enough to startle a group of deer you're shooting at. If you're on the receiving end, the sound of the bullet going past at supersonic speed is much louder than the thump of the gun firing.
The chief benefit is to your own hearing, in the long term. Also some reduced potential for complaints about the noise. This is something I'd like to see our firearms organizations work on, but it doesn't seem to be on their radar.
"The language of dogs and birds teaches you your own language."
-- Jim Harrison (1937 - 2016)
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April 1st, 2016, 09:19 AM
#15
I get why, due to the criminal aspect, but in Europe they use them as hunting is close to homes and gun fire is a nuisance, we have the same crap here, shotgun only zones for deer have complaints all the time for people shooting.
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April 1st, 2016, 10:02 AM
#16
The biggest complaint I hear from anti's is they hear gunshots and think they're in danger. This is why bowhunting is more widely accepted. If they don't see the kills or hear the shots then all is good for us and them. Some guns are so loud the shooter has more damage then the animal he's shooting at! Increase the fines for poaching and lets get this suppression issue legalized!
If you keep doing what you've always done. You'll keep getting what you've always got!
Since light travels faster than sound, some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
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April 1st, 2016, 03:05 PM
#17

Originally Posted by
MikePal
Deer aren't that bothered by the sound of gunfire, they don't seem to make the association of it to danger. Many a time I have fired with in proximity to small group of deer and all they do is look up and they go back to eating.
So a 'moderator' would have no added benefit to hunting, unless you trying to keep humans from hearing it.
This is so true a couple years ago I shot a whole "flock" of deer during the controlled season (yes we had enough tags) in about two minutes. They just took a couple steps and looked back each step.
"I may not have gone where I was supposed to go, but I ended up where I was supposed to be"
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April 1st, 2016, 03:13 PM
#18
Suppressors being banned in Canada has nothing to do with wildlife. Its because the government thinks we suddenly become mass murderers if we have one. The same people that believe this also think that a 5 cent rivet in a magazine will prevent someone from using a high capacity magazine in an illegal fashion, or that a registry paper somehow prevents a murder.
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April 1st, 2016, 09:20 PM
#19
The UK has some of the toughest and most ridiculous gun laws on earth, but getting a moderator is pretty standard tbh.
Handguns and semi-automatic rifles are prohibited though.
Go figure....
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April 2nd, 2016, 07:07 AM
#20
You’re lucky to have the gear you already have. Some people wish they had stuff as nice as the stuff you think isn’t good enough. - Bill Heavey