CBC talks about firearms - fear mongering 101

[fishermccann]

I did both, plus also vacuumed and did the inside windows on the truck, fertilized the back lawn and then went and got pizza for dinner. A full day for me, now off to watch a little hockey before falling asleep with the knowledge of a day well spent. Not bad for a retired guy. Tomorrow , going golfing. Cheers

[terrym]

It was a beautiful day for fishing but I stopped doing openers a few years ago. Too crowded too crazy. I took the dog for a nice run in the woods. Got a nice point on a grouse, couldn't find a nest so I'm hoping it wasn't a hen. Pretty well time to stay out of those spots now.

[terrym]

I did both, plus also vacuumed and did the inside windows on the truck, fertilized the back lawn and then went and got pizza for dinner. A full day for me, now off to watch a little hockey before falling asleep with the knowledge of a day well spent. Not bad for a retired guy. Tomorrow , going golfing. Cheers

i was thinking of fertilizing this weekend. What do you put down this time of year? I have some dandelions up already.

[fishermccann]

Anything with the big number first, (nitrogen), at this time of year.

[welsh]

Virtually certainty that no one has convinced anyone to budge a single mm where their own opinions are concerned.

You can always hope to convince people who haven't made up their minds. Trying to convince people who have, when it comes to guns, is futile. Guns, like religion, are a matter of faith.

Anyway, I never did fish the Rocky Saugeen much. Access was always a problem. One of these days I'll go back to fishing the Saugeen system.

[JBen]

When it comes to (for lack of better words and lets not get too hung up on literal translations) extreme positions, that's pretty much the heart of the matter. Be it Guns and GC, be it politics and the far Left or far right, be it religion, be it A-Z. Neither are going to budge.

On this topic, or those/others. Is anything accomplished by name calling and outright dismissal of peoples concerns? You and I Welsh, I suspect are pretty close (broad term, lets not split hairs or get into semantics) . I have no problems with our current GC measures, and likely wouldn't freak out over some more (depending on specifics). You and I have both, at different times used the US and drawn the parallels to show the similarities and differences. Why GC works here, why other factors such as socio economic leads to compounding the problems there., etc, etc.

Funny thing about what happens when two extreme sides are more interested in calling each names, arguing, dismissive of this or that, and going on and on and on and on. Nothing gets done and things worsen. Even to the point where now because the Left dismisses everyone on the right as being paranoid, xenophobic, homophobic, red neck mysogonist, and as a result Trump has risen to the fore, become very popular, or the right or the NRA dismisses the concerns of the left and vice versa.

I suppose if we flipped things around a little, changed a couple words here and there.............

We can always hope to either to change the middle. Or hang on to it, see both sides......There (the US) where the middle is now almost completely lost, we to as we always do are following in their footsteps and slowly, inch by inch losing the middle.

[MikePal]

The problem is JBen...in the Gun community if you don't back the hard right 100%, you're branded a FUDD (Slang term for a "casual" gun owner; eg; a person who typically only owns guns for hunting or shotgun sports and don't have a real problem with some GC measures.

There seems to be little middle ground. It's the old "either you're with us or your against us"....

[JBen]

JT and the left. if you aren't with them your a paranoid xenophobic, mysogonist,
Wynne and the left, if you don't agree with everything or have concerns about say curriculums, and refugees. Your a paranoid xenophobic, mysogonist.

JT talking about the changes to GC he wants to and is bringing in...Whole lot of hyperbole, fear mongering, dismissive attitude there to.

And Kevin O'Leary a Trump light coming on the horizon. Almost eerily similar to the US, where Ross Perot first came on the scene. Things weren't quite as bad back in the 90s, so the American public wasn't quite as disenfranchised and ready to embrace him with open arms as they very obviously doing today with Trump.

It cuts both ways Mike

[MikePal]

It cuts both ways Mike

That's the second 1/2 of the Fudd definition: "These people also generally treat owners/users of so called "non sporting" firearms like handguns or semiautomatic rifles with unwarranted scorn or contempt." ..LOL...

[JBen]

Bingo.

Back to the US. The left ridicules the right, treats them with a lot of scorn and contempt about Trump. Never bothering to pause for one second to ask "Why, why are so many people getting behind him". And not realizing that the problem is them their dismissive attitudes, the disenfranchising of the public, etc, etc. Cause and effect.

We are seeing it here in Canada. As we always do on most things, we follow the US by a generation or so.
Back in 90s Ross Perot came on the scene. We have O'Leary coming on the scene today. Both Trump lights and both just a little too soon.