One horse dead coyotes

[fratri]

7 coyotes in 3 days...pretty good....too bad about the horses

[Mattones]

Local news was saying two labs were killed by coyotes in the backyard of the owners fenced yard on Sunday evening. There was also a thing on the local city Facebook page with 60plus comments. Some of the comments were the typical 'they were here first so don't blame the coyotes' or 'relocate them'. And some actually said they need the city to have a cull. Which surprised me.

[Snowwalker]

I just got off the phone with a friend...........him and an other guy sat for morning and night over the dead horse and shot 7 big coyotes in 3 days
the horse that survived had 500 stitches............hey guys show no mercy.........why did they have to attack the 2nd horse

The stallion was most likely trying to protect the mare even "AFTER" it was dead. Think about dead or alive it's his mare, carrying his foal.

[COYHUNTER]

Only about a billion more horses to go in Ontario...

dont know what your implying

[DUXX]

I don't know where the concern over the pups comes in. If they Are varmints get rid of them. If they have pups that's like 7 for the price of 1. I thought the best situation was coyote hunters had no coyotes left to hunt, and have to go back to hunting deer. It takes a lot to catch them killing livestock. I know some farmers that have had some sleepless night to kill the lamb killing machines.

[SK33T3R]

Local news was saying two labs were killed by coyotes in the backyard of the owners fenced yard on Sunday evening. There was also a thing on the local city Facebook page with 60plus comments. Some of the comments were the typical 'they were here first so don't blame the coyotes' or 'relocate them'. And some actually said they need the city to have a cull. Which surprised me.

Hey Matt

You need to set those people straight. Coyotes were not here first. They were never native to Ontario. They started showing up late 60's, early 70's - at least in my neck of the woods. Back then I hunted all over Niagara for fox with a black & tan cross bluetick hound. I averaged $120 per fox. With a high on one over $200. Fantastic money for a kid back then. One winter I got 27 fox. me, dog and 12 gauge #2 magnum. Working in the local abrasives company in induction furnaces I cleared $125/week for 40 hours of hard labor. Chasin foxes as you can see was lucrative. I hunted every day. I never never never even seen a coyote or a track until 1974 ish. That coyote was living in a pine hydro plantation. I chased it for about 2 weeks every day. I finally got it after it was starting to slow down after me hitting twice earlier. My 105lb hound finally caught it and had it bayed. Quite a battle until I showed up and shot it point blank. My hound was the toughest dog I have ever known. that coyote weighed 67 lbs on the bathroom scale.

anyway the point I always make is that these creatures are an INVASIVE SPECIES and never never inhabited our province. It's plain to see that our native wildlife never had to deal with them as a predator.

THEY ARE AN INVASIVE SPECIES! Make sure this point is made to all trying to protect them!

[fratri]

Hey Matt

You need to set those people straight. Coyotes were not here first. They were never native to Ontario. They started showing up late 60's, early 70's - at least in my neck of the woods. Back then I hunted all over Niagara for fox with a black & tan cross bluetick hound. I averaged $120 per fox. With a high on one over $200. Fantastic money for a kid back then. One winter I got 27 fox. me, dog and 12 gauge #2 magnum. Working in the local abrasives company in induction furnaces I cleared $125/week for 40 hours of hard labor. Chasin foxes as you can see was lucrative. I hunted every day. I never never never even seen a coyote or a track until 1974 ish. That coyote was living in a pine hydro plantation. I chased it for about 2 weeks every day. I finally got it after it was starting to slow down after me hitting twice earlier. My 105lb hound finally caught it and had it bayed. Quite a battle until I showed up and shot it point blank. My hound was the toughest dog I have ever known. that coyote weighed 67 lbs on the bathroom scale.

anyway the point I always make is that these creatures are an INVASIVE SPECIES and never never inhabited our province. It's plain to see that our native wildlife never had to deal with them as a predator.

THEY ARE AN INVASIVE SPECIES! Make sure this point is made to all trying to protect them!

Hey sk33t3r.... I am going to be a little $h-t here...so my apologies in advance...


We too are invasive species... The white man settled here, when, about 400 years ago? The world was and is a changing place. Today's world just changes faster.... We will need to learn how to deal with the change...

[jaycee]

Hey sk33t3r.... I am going to be a little $h-t here...so my apologies in advance...


We too are invasive species... The white man settled here, when, about 400 years ago? The world was and is a changing place. Today's world just changes faster.... We will need to learn how to deal with the change...

There are many things we can add that are not native to this country , moose in Newfoundland, pheasants , brown trout , rainbow trout, dandelions, many species of birds, possums and the list can go on but as soon as a particular species starts to interfere with our past times or our hobbies , some then say "get rid or kill them all".
WE have to learn to live with it and use them [coyotes ] as an addition in our hunting outings, sure makes the late fall and winters go by very quickly and can also make you a better hunter in your other hunting endeavors, as coyotes are not the easiest animal to hunt, and you /we can learn quite a bit from hunting them .

As some say "kill them all" but there are others , orchardists , farmers that grow soft vegetables and fruit , they want the coyotes around as the coyotes are the best pest control they have on the farms by keeping down the population of mice , raccoons , and possums , and many other pests. One orchardist that I know claims that one or two possums can devastate his pear orchard very quickly so he wants the coyotes around as they help him in keeping his hard earned dollars to feed his family.

What some [hunters ] see as a detriment to their hunting or hobbies , others see as an advantage to their livelihood .

If I have offended anyone here on this subject ?? well that is how I and many others feel about it , I have been hunting coyotes for over 40 years and have killed many over that length of time , running them with hounds , calling , and some by opportunity, we live in the country see them in the fields behind us constantly and I don't want to kill every one I see at all times of the years unless it is a mangy one .

I almost forgot, let us not forget other reintroduced species to Ontario that are causing some farmers a lot of grief , ELK and TURKEYS.

[SK33T3R]

Well I guess one mans crap is another mans gold. Yeah there are lots of non native species here but most of them we released or nurtured to enhance our lives. Not all has always worked out well but the initial thoughts/intentions were good ones. The coyotes showed up and it was not anyone's good intentions. We had plenty of fox in the old days to handle the mice for all the farmers but along comes mr coyote and foxes are getting scarce. Foxes would eat prey up to cottontail size. Coyotes on the other hand eat dogs/cats/sheep/horses/turkeys/deer/pheasants etc. I would trade foxes for coyotes any day. It's only a matter of time and we will have our first human fatality. Unfortunately it will be a child. A few children have already been bit by coyotes and they were lucky there was an adult around.

You're argument is that it's nice to have something to shoot at during the winter months. Well when I was younger we had lots to shoot at during the winter months - rabbits everywhere - cottontails and jacks, we had lots of foxes - and Niagara was loaded in pheasants. Only pheasant I've seen in the last 25 yrs was at the pheasant farm. Cottontails .. I shot 86 one winter with a 410 single shot. The only cottontails I see any more are in my yard. Jackrabbits were common there's some pockets in Ontario but not around me any more.

I would love to see the coyote gone completely. BUT I guess when your given lemons then you need to make lemonade.

[jaycee]

I would love to see the coyote gone completely. BUT I guess when your given lemons then you need to make lemonade.

There is nothing wrong with "lemonade " in fact it can be quite enjoyable !, there are too many that are stuck in their old ways, and want to completely wipe out anything/everything that interferes with their own indulgences.