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April 30th, 2016, 05:34 PM
#11
LOL yes Sharon he is. Bit too high octane for me. Great during hunting season... just a bit frustrating for the other 8-9 months of the year lmao
"You don't own a cocker, you wear one"
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April 30th, 2016 05:34 PM
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April 30th, 2016, 11:32 PM
#12
I think that as Rustic mentioned, not all dogs respond the same to a given diet however for the most part a decent food source should serve most dogs.
It also depends on the demands you put on your dog. If you don't have the measures and comparables in place, you won't know how well the food serves your dog OR how much better the dog could perform with a higher quality product. If this doesn't play into your demands, go with price point.
Where dry dog food is concerned, I also believe that the content percentages on the bags have marginally more value than the pictures. There is protein and there is utile protein. That's why I feed for a month or so, then do my measures.
Demands change. Seasons change. Recipes change. Parent companies change. Dogs (metabolism/age/appetite) change. Consistency within a product can vary. Some dogs tire of an otherwise good food and get finicky where-by simply changing to another product can inspire them again. Some dogs inhale their food without even chewing while others are VERY picky.
It can be interesting to find one dog food for all of the above.
Last edited by Ugo; May 1st, 2016 at 06:48 AM.
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May 1st, 2016, 08:54 AM
#13

Originally Posted by
Ugo
Where dry dog food is concerned, I also believe that the content percentages on the bags have marginally more value than the pictures. There is protein and there is utile protein. That's why I feed for a month or so, then do my measures.
This is the vital point when it comes to food, as far as I'm concerned. A food can have quality ingredients but not be easily digestible. All our fuss about food is meaningless if it isn't focused first on the results.
"The language of dogs and birds teaches you your own language."
-- Jim Harrison (1937 - 2016)
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May 1st, 2016, 11:11 AM
#14
Has too much time on their hands
Some breeds or bloodlines will have breeding dogs throwing pups with the same metabolism as the parents. I have experienced this with my breeding and working dogs. Lean and high energy dogs typically consume more calories to perform at a higher level. But some breeds like the Spitz family of working breeds are known to consume less food and perform for longer periods of time. That would be genetic and thousands of years in the making. Look at the breeding parents and ask the questions to the breeder with regards to the amount of food for a pup, yearling , mature adult and working dog amounts. I could pretty much pinpoint the amount of food needed (calories)to pass along to my puppy purchasers through these growth stages. It is also key to fully understand a proven dog food kibble that works with your breed of choice and be able to prove it by trial and error. Not all dog foods are equal no matter how much they cost ! The best dog foods are proven under extreme conditions ! Everyone has a version of what is considered extreme.
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May 1st, 2016, 11:29 AM
#15
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
Ugo
I think that as Rustic mentioned, not all dogs respond the same to a given diet however for the most part a decent food source should serve most dogs.
It also depends on the demands you put on your dog. If you don't have the measures and comparables in place, you won't know how well the food serves your dog OR how much better the dog could perform with a higher quality product. If this doesn't play into your demands, go with price point.
Where dry dog food is concerned, I also believe that the content percentages on the bags have marginally more value than the pictures. There is protein and there is utile protein. That's why I feed for a month or so, then do my measures.
Demands change. Seasons change. Recipes change. Parent companies change. Dogs (metabolism/age/appetite) change. Consistency within a product can vary. Some dogs tire of an otherwise good food and get finicky where-by simply changing to another product can inspire them again. Some dogs inhale their food without even chewing while others are VERY picky.
It can be interesting to find one dog food for all of the above.
Dr. Tim's
Red Paw
Caribou creek
National Dog food back in the day
Annamaet
All these top end proven recipes have a life stage formulas and invest millions into research under the most Extreme Conditions . Some of these dog food companies owners partake in these extreme dog sports and sponsor other teams to prove the quality of their product. Other top end dog food companies have tried with disastrous results.
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May 1st, 2016, 02:09 PM
#16
I know I'm old , but personally I think we make way too much about dog food.
When my Dad and I were breeding /training/hunting beagles in the 50/s 60s, we hit a time when we were very poor, and couldn't afford Purina.
Could hardly feed 6 kids let alone dogs.
My dad would pick up the left over food from food trucks on Fridays ; we ate it , and the dogs ate it.
- meat pies, buns, salads, fruit. wieners etc.
Dogs looked great and had all the energy needed.
Kids did fine - although to this day I can't eat a meat pie.
" We are more than our gender, skin color, class, sexuality or age; we are unlimited potential, and can not be defined by one label." quote A. Bartlett