Fort Mac may be lost

[skypilot]

Estimates seem really low however I'm not there accessing the damage.

At just $100k per 88,000 people is almost 9 billion loonies.

I saw the moron at a photo op in moronto for the 840 million dollar transit project.

Evidently it takes a better photo op than a world class fire to get him and Goodale West of the 400.

[JBen]

If he goes now, he'd be oiled and feathered for it. I actually agree this isn't the time for photo ops and phoney tearyy eyed scenes of Justine wannabeiber. However.

/sarcasm on

im guessing reality he's waiting for more than 14,000 cots to arrive.

. Perhaps like Syria he/they think winter jackets for the displaced.......

[JBen]

Down the road? Aside from all the insurance claims for property loss, fire damage (which even if homes didn't burn, the smoke damage to structures/furniture etc) I imagine is going to be extensive.

Things are going to need to be torn down, cleaned up. Theres a big bill, then rebuilt.
I imagine engineers are going to have to stress test things to ensure they are safe following heat stress. Everything from structures, to the cities infrastructure (bridges, electrical, water)... Cha ching
Road crews I imagine will need to repave large stretches of pavement/roads..

You more than most are likely familiar with cleaning up, rebuilding following Katrine.......

[fishermccann]

Please tell me why the current Prime Minister of the country be 'oiled and feathered' for attending the area, to show support for those helping, at a disaster not of his making? When things like this happen in our country there should be no partisan politics involved. Should we not help because R. Klein once said, 'let the eastern bastards freeze in the dark'?

[skypilot]

I suppose, in all fairness, if he showed up it would be damned too as another photo op.

He's just such a naive, childish, buffoon that it will be hard for him to do anything right or "right"

Appears all the management of the disaster is being done by NDP good or bad with some help from Sajeet.

Time will tell how little t is judged on his disaster response and his lack of asking for help before it was an inferno.

[Exo200]

As much as I can't stand our clown as leader as of today this devastation is not done! Nobody at this point is considering monetary value ? Some are I guess. Get this raging beast out then start analizing the damage . We are all sitting here watching on our computer's / tv's and getting update's, it's a disaster. You and I didn't have 20 min to round up your family and what ever would fit in your car or truck and leave, only to watch your home burn behind you. I'm sure insurance companies are cringing ? then the final straw will be and it will take time to see what the government's do . Think of the people that lost everything first !!!

[JBen]

Jeez Gord, I'm surprised Skypilot had to answer it. If he did show up now, he'd be torn to shreds for.
a) scoring political points during a tragedy
b) taking officials away and creating a media circus when it's far from over
etc

In short, he/they are making the right decision. And if you'd paused long to think about it, you'd have known I'm defending him for "that", not criticizing.

[skypilot]

Question......Does the Alberta Prov. Govt. have to ask in writing for the Canadian Federal Govt. to come in and resolve/help/takeover the current disaster?

Should simply be a yes or no answer.

[JBen]

By declaring a state of emergency, the Feds take on certain responsibilities.

Am having dinner with family, one of whom is an oil worker. Their camp/mine is an hour from Fort Mac. He estimates in a few days/week the mine will shut down all construction due to running out of supplies, food, water, more. The alternative is shipping it all from Edmonton (8hrs away). Aka the cost to supply the mine, operations, the people is going to sky rocket. Everything is shipped from Fort Mac. 19,000 workers......

For a region that's been crushed the last year..thinking about the "cost", or the lack of action/relief is you see, thinking about the people first. Just depends on how you look at it.

[skypilot]

Thanks for the answer. Just thinking about similarities when Kathleen Blanco (Liberal Governor)refused to allow Bush(feds) to help Louisiana during Katrina and the suffering and prolonged recovery that it caused.

Apparently in Canada it is different wrt Federal/Prov. authority during disasters.

Yes, infrastructure will be priority one because until that is sustainable no human resources can be brought in to begin any type of real recovery.