Migratory game bird licence

[matitude]

I use 2-3/4" shells in #3 steel for ducks and BB for geese in my 12 gauge. I like Kent and Challenger shells, there is no need to spend lots of money on shells. I bought the Challengers I have on sale at Cabela's for $11.99 last fall. They are normally $16.99 or close to that anyway. I have killed plenty of ducks and geese with them, no problems.

Thanks for that info, my browning shoots both 2 3/4" and 3" so I will be sure to pattern different shell sizes as well as shot size to see what preforms best.

[finsfurfeathers]

I use 2-3/4" shells in #3 steel for ducks and BB for geese in my 12 gauge. I like Kent and Challenger shells, there is no need to spend lots of money on shells. I bought the Challengers I have on sale at Cabela's for $11.99 last fall. They are normally $16.99 or close to that anyway. I have killed plenty of ducks and geese with them, no problems.

Yes and no. I'd be the first to say you don't need to spend a lot however you do get what you pay for. There is no comparison in lethality between 2 3/4" Steel BB and 3" #2 heavy metal(tungsten matrix) for geese. If you keep your range under 30 yards and don't mind chasing cripples can go cheap with the steel. I prefer stone cold kills and a bit more range if they are not committing fully to the spread or at a second bird as they are leaving the decoys. My set up is 3" steel #1 or BB as a first short and the second/third shot heavy metal. Yes it pains me to shot the good stuff but I hate chasing cripples more. By planning ahead and shopping the sales can minimize expense. Sometimes you get lucky as last year through a menagerie of errors with basspro managed to walk away with a case of Heavy metal 3" BB for 10.00 a box.

[poltrojan]

The water fowl license is good all across Canada. Wood is not considered small game,so you need a duck and goose ,license????

Geese and ducks fall under the same 'migratory bird license' requirements. Every year they release the brochure for limits and restrictions, read up on them. You must be in possession of small game license to acquire the migratory bird license.

[skeeter1]

Geese and ducks fall under the same 'migratory bird license' requirements. Every year they release the brochure for limits and restrictions, read up on them. You must be in possession of small game license to acquire the migratory bird license.

This is not true, anyone can buy a migratory game stamp. It is not a "hunting license" unless accompanied by a small game license.

[line052]

I whole hardly agree with this statement. I looked at the cost of a new decent 12 gauge in Semi. 800-2200 for a good one. I eventually learned that 3.5", 3" and 2 3/4" all kill ducks and geese..if you wait until they are in range. I ended up buying a 1960"s 2 3/4" Winchester 878 and save money on shells. The first season I duck hunted, my buddy and I blasted the air not understanding the new lead times of fast steel verses the lead we used to used to shoot 35 yrs ago. Once I figured out the lead times and LEARNED to wait until in "range" the size of shell did not matter anymore. Some older guns like the A5, 1100, 878 in semi can be bought between 300-500 privately with no tax, they are usually overbuilt and dead reliable as in the case of mine. Like anything else proper care and maintenance is required. I put over 500 rds thru my 878 last season with no issues.

[Fox]

I whole hardly agree with this statement. I looked at the cost of a new decent 12 gauge in Semi. 800-2200 for a good one. I eventually learned that 3.5", 3" and 2 3/4" all kill ducks and geese..if you wait until they are in range. I ended up buying a 1960"s 2 3/4" Winchester 878 and save money on shells. The first season I duck hunted, my buddy and I blasted the air not understanding the new lead times of fast steel verses the lead we used to used to shoot 35 yrs ago. Once I figured out the lead times and LEARNED to wait until in "range" the size of shell did not matter anymore. Some older guns like the A5, 1100, 878 in semi can be bought between 300-500 privately with no tax, they are usually overbuilt and dead reliable as in the case of mine. Like anything else proper care and maintenance is required. I put over 500 rds thru my 878 last season with no issues.

3" in nice though, a Winchester 1300 3" is the fastest pump ever and can be had now for a very good price.

I don't have the money for gimmick ammo, shoot them at 30ft and they do not know if it is #4 steel at $15 a box or BB platinum ammo at $12 a shot. I have killed geese with 2 3/4" steel #2 and missed them with 3 1/2" T steel, both can work well and not so well.

[Cintax]

Yes and no. I'd be the first to say you don't need to spend a lot however you do get what you pay for. There is no comparison in lethality between 2 3/4" Steel BB and 3" #2 heavy metal(tungsten matrix) for geese. If you keep your range under 30 yards and don't mind chasing cripples can go cheap with the steel. I prefer stone cold kills and a bit more range if they are not committing fully to the spread or at a second bird as they are leaving the decoys. My set up is 3" steel #1 or BB as a first short and the second/third shot heavy metal. Yes it pains me to shot the good stuff but I hate chasing cripples more. By planning ahead and shopping the sales can minimize expense. Sometimes you get lucky as last year through a menagerie of errors with basspro managed to walk away with a case of Heavy metal 3" BB for 10.00 a box.

There is an obvious energy difference between steel at 7.8 g/cc and lead (w antimony) at 11.1 g/cc but less of one between steel and Hevi-shot at 9.8 g/cc. Tungsten matrix is closest to lead at 10.8 g/cc and Federal Heavyweight exceed leads density at around 15 g/cc. Using a denser shot will let you carry more energy further from the muzzle so you are correct regarding killing power and lethal killing distance. Knowing your limits is one of the most important aspects to hunting. We all want to harvest game and minimize animal suffering.

I know the limits of my ammunition so I shoot them when they are close and I don't take janky shots at birds I can see are too far away. I can say I have never had to chase a cripple, and I hope I never have to.

[duckslayer]

I can say I have never had to chase a cripple, and I hope I never have to.

Hahahaha what a statement.................. you don't happen to be related to Jeff Bondar are you?????

You have obviously not waterfowl hunted much................EVERYONE has had to chase a cripple or finish a bird off and not because they are shooting too far.............. Bondar must have taught you to shoot just like him.........25/25 every time on the trap stand!!!!!!!


Don't get me wrong I agree with most of what your last post stated but that last sentence took it a little too far...........hahaha

[Cintax]

Hahahaha what a statement.................. you don't happen to be related to Jeff Bondar are you?????

You have obviously not waterfowl hunted much................EVERYONE has had to chase a cripple or finish a bird off and not because they are shooting too far.............. Bondar must have taught you to shoot just like him.........25/25 every time on the trap stand!!!!!!!


Don't get me wrong I agree with most of what your last post stated but that last sentence took it a little too far...........hahaha

I do not know who Jeff Bondar is. I suspect he was known to spin a tale or two based on your post. The content of my post is accurate. I have never had to chase a cripple. I guess I am just lucky, but as I said, I don't take janky shots either.

[duckslayer]

Hahaha ok we will leave it at that.........god I love the internet!!!!!