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May 26th, 2016, 09:27 AM
#101
You should be more concerned for those in the boat, that you are driving towards in the dark, to scare them. LOL.
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May 26th, 2016 09:27 AM
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May 26th, 2016, 09:29 AM
#102

Originally Posted by
fishermccann
You should be more concerned for those in the boat, that you are driving towards in the dark, to scare them. LOL.
Because they were sitting in the middle of the lake with no lights? Hey, have a great day.
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May 26th, 2016, 09:45 AM
#103

Originally Posted by
last5oh_302
Thing is, these laws come about for our own protection because, drum roll please, somebody has done it.
nanny state. kiss off government I can look after me. if what I am doing only effects me the government is out of line.
to the original post. there has to be some level of sanity here. we ALL drive 100kph or under on the 401 I am sure.
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May 26th, 2016, 09:58 AM
#104
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
Monster29/66
after all this I did see the young lad last night on the water... He confirmed just as we advised him that when he went to the JP the ticket was torn up and tossed.... I know this because I had a similar thing happen for not having a licence on me. In my case the JP said all I ever hear from the crown is our police are short staffed yet they have time for this.
for every angler here who feels there should be no level of discretion on fish measurements I have decided to start helping the OPP with the speeding issues and will start fwd video of any truck pulling a boats down the county road more than 10km an he over the limit hour As they pass me that I routinely get on my dash camera. I hope one of the morons on here who feels 1/4 of a fish is more important than speeders and road safety gets the first ticket.
Great news, thanks, I won't have to release any fish a 1/4" or 1/2" over the slot size!!!! Btw, how dide you know it was only a 1/4" over?
You shouldn't bother videotaping because they won't be able to use for speeding....
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May 26th, 2016, 10:01 AM
#105

Originally Posted by
bardern
nanny state. kiss off government I can look after me. if what I am doing only effects me the government is out of line.
Ha Ha ...so when you end up needing 911...don't bother calling..take care of it yourself.
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May 26th, 2016, 10:25 AM
#106
Yes, some people never want the police around....until they want the police around.
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May 26th, 2016, 10:38 AM
#107
Your missing the point all together - keeping a fish 3/16 of an inch over or under hurts no one - for a CO giving a 175 dollar fine for that is what I call petty - completely uncalled for - because measuring anything is never 100% accurate - for those of you who think that the guy should have got a fine think about this - your driving down the road in a 55 mph speed limit but your going 57 mph - you get pulled over and fined 100 bucks - don't tell me that your ok with this - the first thing your gonna say is - holy mackerel officer - I was only going 2 miles over the limit - the intent of any fish law is to keep people from harming the resource by keeping too many or by preserving fish of a certain size for reproduction purposes - keeping a fish hardly out of a slot limit does hurt anything
I remember many years ago I was fishing here in Pa. with my brother - to keep a walleye it had to be 15 inches or over - well I catch one that is around 14 and 3/4 - I was using a night crawler and the fish was hooked pretty deep - I put the fish in the water and it lays on the surface - no doubt it wasn't going to make it - so I kept it - later on a warden comes along and wants to measure the fish we had - they are all ok except for the one - I explain that I put it back but it was dead - well he tells me that if he lets me go he would have to let everyone go - so he fines me - I don't remember how much at the time - I could either pay him or get a fine in the mail
Well a week or so later I get this letter in the mail that I need to pay so much - I just ignored the letter - weeks later a warden shows up at the house looking for me - my brother tells the warden that I was on leave from the army at the time and am now in Greenland - the warden mumbles something about guys being on leave and not following the rules - never did pay the fine - figured I almost got killed in Korea fighting for my country and no way was I going to worry about some stinking fish
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May 26th, 2016, 10:51 AM
#108

Originally Posted by
JoePa
Your missing the point all together - keeping a fish 3/16 of an inch over or under hurts no one - for a CO giving a 175 dollar fine for that is what I call petty - completely uncalled for - because measuring anything is never 100% accurate - for those of you who think that the guy should have got a fine think about this - your driving down the road in a 55 mph speed limit but your going 57 mph - you get pulled over and fined 100 bucks - don't tell me that your ok with this - the first thing your gonna say is - holy mackerel officer - I was only going 2 miles over the limit - the intent of any fish law is to keep people from harming the resource by keeping too many or by preserving fish of a certain size for reproduction purposes - keeping a fish hardly out of a slot limit does hurt anything
I remember many years ago I was fishing here in Pa. with my brother - to keep a walleye it had to be 15 inches or over - well I catch one that is around 14 and 3/4 - I was using a night crawler and the fish was hooked pretty deep - I put the fish in the water and it lays on the surface - no doubt it wasn't going to make it - so I kept it - later on a warden comes along and wants to measure the fish we had - they are all ok except for the one - I explain that I put it back but it was dead - well he tells me that if he lets me go he would have to let everyone go - so he fines me - I don't remember how much at the time - I could either pay him or get a fine in the mail
Well a week or so later I get this letter in the mail that I need to pay so much - I just ignored the letter - weeks later a warden shows up at the house looking for me - my brother tells the warden that I was on leave from the army at the time and am now in Greenland - the warden mumbles something about guys being on leave and not following the rules - never did pay the fine - figured I almost got killed in Korea fighting for my country and no way was I going to worry about some stinking fish
So if the limit on fish to take home is 6, then with what you are saying 7, maybe 8 is ok, because it does not hurt anyone. If that 15in minimum fish was actually 6 fish at 14in then are they still ok?
The fact is that the law was broken and everyone knows the law. If you are not sure about your measurement then it is up to you to make sure that you do not keep anything outside of the allowable limit.
If I were pulled over and given a ticket for 102 Km/hr on the highway when the speed limit is 100 km/hr then so be it, I was doing something wrong and I should accept that.
No license then get a fine for not having your license, next time you might bring it with you.
I don't get how so many people say it is not a big deal but then freak out when the next guy has an extra line out when ice fishing or shoots 5min after the end of legal shooting time, you cannot have it both ways, either we accept the consequences for our actions or we don't, I was taught to accept what you did, good or bad.
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May 26th, 2016, 10:51 AM
#109

Originally Posted by
diverduck
No, the fine would not likely be tossed, and your understanding of the legal system is poor. The MNR can not "toss" a charge issued by the OPP, nor would they do that if they could. I had to toss back numerous "overs" on the long weekend, and finding keeper fish was a grind but I did so. Some of the fish I tossed back where just barely over, but they where no good so back they went. Additionally, the OPP has a marine unit out performing marine duties, they are not going to be a part of general patrol out doing traffic enforcement. The problem with law enforcement is that no one wants you unless they need you, and if someone gets pinched they scream bloody murder that it's not their fault. The guy kept a fish over the slot size, he got pinched, he got a ticket, he can own it! I have zero sympathy. About as much sympathy as I'd have for myself if I got a speeding ticket while speeding. It's not the policemans fault that I have a lead foot!
the fine was tossed by the JP - Diver Duck I mean Perry Mason by the JP... I'm pretty confident I know what the MNR can and can't do But keep lecturing.
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May 26th, 2016, 10:53 AM
#110

Originally Posted by
stragglelake
I know they can do it for restricted.
Are you sure they can for non-restricted ?
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Oh,yes. The laws make no exception.