I Wonder How Many Even Remember

[JoePa]

JoePa, why don't you go visit and ask the people there, if it was worth it? Ask the families of the dead South Korean soldiers and citizens if it was worth it? I believe the Korean people suffered over a million casualties? Go ask the survivors of that conflict instead of crying about how great thou art that the U.S. had a few thousand casualties?

Bush' - I'm a Korean combat vet - enough said -

[Fox]

Bush' - I'm a Korean combat vet - enough said -

You missed the point but that seems to be the norm.

You fought in the Korean Conflict and that is commendable but you turn around and say they should be thanking you and thanking the US for what you have done and Bushmoose is simply wanting you to consider the families that were split by the fighting and the deaths on the other sides, including other allies that fought along with the UN in this conflict. I understand that the US is the center of the Universe but there are many different parts to the Korean Conflict that are not part of the US.

[Dythbringer]

You missed the point but that seems to be the norm.

You fought in the Korean Conflict and that is commendable but you turn around and say they should be thanking you and thanking the US for what you have done and Bushmoose is simply wanting you to consider the families that were split by the fighting and the deaths on the other sides, including other allies that fought along with the UN in this conflict. I understand that the US is the center of the Universe but there are many different parts to the Korean Conflict that are not part of the US.

And a lot of suffering that wasn't US centralized. Alleging the only suffering was purely by US by mentioning only US causalities diminishes what really happened in the Korean War. This isn't the first time JoePa has done this.

[Fox]

And a lot of suffering that wasn't US centralized. Alleging the only suffering was purely by US by mentioning only US causalities diminishes what really happened in the Korean War. This isn't the first time JoePa has done this.

He has 3 posts outside of the Off Topic in the month, it might be a record.

I know it is wikipedia but there are some numbers here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War

1/3 of the soldiers are listed as American with 326K in total. The total civilian casualties are estimated at 2.5 Million. There looks to be about 200K UN deaths in total and anywhere from 360K to 750K Communist deaths.

[JoePa]

So I mention US causalities - why do you make it sound like I don't realize there were other countries fighting in that war and incurring causalities - what was I supposed to do - name every country and their causalities to satisfy you - and as far as the Koreans thanking us fighting for their freedom - I never said that - I was wondering if they even remember - as the years go by people have a tendency to forget and the younger ones don't even know what happened - whenever I say something about the US there are some guys just looking for a reason to down play the US achievement - must be something in the water that they drinking - all I can say is - lend me your hat

[Bushmoose]

Bush' - I'm a Korean combat vet - enough said -

Kudo's to you. I had an uncle that served with the "vandoo's" over in Korea. Ever hear of them? Several other members of my family also served in various Canadian regiments during WWII. Never once heard any of them looking for recognition from the citizens of war torn country's that were liberated during that conflict? Funny that eh?

[KMG Canada]

As a modern day vet of a couple of different places, I think I get where you are coming from Joe PA. It is a really normal reaction to wonder whether or not it was worth it, especially at a personal level. Heck, I think all soldiers think about that post conflict whether it was last year or a long time ago.

[skypilot]

God and the Soldier we alike adore
In times of danger and not before.
The danger past and all conflict righted
God is forgotten, the Soldier slighted.

Cheers to all the warriors old and young.
Don't expect any praise cause there won't be any and they don't owe it, nor would I want it if not freely given.

[JBen]

While there have been occasions in the past, that had to set the record straight with respect to WWWII and the US's short memory that there were many others involved, that they didn't save the world, and really just joined the party late. It wasn't their Generals or unbeatable troops or great equipment as the US histories and a certain city lead them to believe ( really not much more to it than Factories pumping out a ton of hardware cheaply made (almost like China today) and not getting bombed back to the stone ages))....and when you grow up getting spoon fed such stuff.....

Didn't take the original post as "US chest thumping". Took it more as "How quickly the world forgets the sacrifices" and if in fact, those around today still hold the same kind of gratitude. Whether it was posted by a US citizen/vet, Cdn or other.

No argument, the US and a good chunk of their citizens have a distorted and inflated sense of importance. The victors write the history books and no one, has had a larger impact in NA than Hollywood and their shall we revisions and glory....

If only us Canucks had a little more pride and glory in Canada. Where the US is known to be "boorish" and full of themselves, lets not forget we are painted as the nice apologist...aw gee shucks Gomer Pyles with inferiority complexes.

[trimmer21]

If only us Canucks had a little more pride and glory in Canada. Where the US is known to be "boorish" and full of themselves, lets not forget we are painted as the nice apologist...aw gee shucks Gomer Pyles with inferiority complexes.

That's pretty close to right on the money,too,JBen. I believe this sentiment is gradually changing in Canada,though......hopefully.