Cops Killed in Dallas

[seabast]

Let's wait for an investigation before we can give an opinion, right!?

[sawbill]

You are reaping the benefit of your gun culture. Enjoy!!!! It's going to get worse !

I agree 100 percent with this.
My oldest brother, brains up the ying yang, highly educated, possesses a wall to wall to wall gun collection and a member of the NRA always said the U.S. has a major problem with their gun culture. This was 40 years ago.

[Sharon]

Just the opposite - the citizens have the guns to fight back and stop the government agents from running rough shot over them - if the citizens didn't have the guns there would be no way to stop the government agents from enslaving them - look at history - in Germany, Russia, China, Cambodia .etc etc - it was the agents of the government that killed and imprisoned the citizens - at least here in America the people can fight back - if there is a wrong you can peacefully demonstrate until the cows come home before anything is done - if ever - sometimes it takes violence to get attention -

Wow. Does help me understand how many ? Americans think though Joe. Scary. So glad I live in Canada.

( Those Officers had parents , wives and children probably. Very sad.)

[buckchaser]

I have a personal friend who has worked as a police officer & lawyer in both Canada and the U.S. (in a major city with one of the highest crime rates in the country). The stories he has are almost beyond belief - constant action, tonnes of violent crime, and a workplace where most police officers burned out within a few years.

Policing in an American major city was literally a completely different job than it was in a Canadian major city. He said he drew his weapon more in a week than he would have in an entire career of Canadian policing. He was directly involved in a shooting of an armed person who was acting in a threatening manner and too many chases to list. He said that things that would be "high priority" in Canada (e.g. domestic dispute) were simply not a priority in the American city he worked in because they were dealing with so much "immediate response" violent crime.

I have no idea what the solution is for the Americans on this issue. So many deeply rooted inequities (racial, economic, etc.) that one hardly knows where to begin.

[Waftrudnir]

the one question that no side likes to discuss is when is it appropriate for citizens to take up arms.
IMHO, not absolutely every idiot (and therefore criminals) should be encouraged to get firearms.
but if you do so (which you guys down south have done long after the British left and law/order was introduced to the West), you eventually end up with a significant proportion of the population carrying defense weapons (i.e. purposely built to kill/harm humans).
I don't have any clue how to stop the cycle either - for the record, (legal) gun control is certainly not the right answer at this point in the game!

fact is that citizens don't fight the US government at all. If you were making any attempts to fight, you wouldn't have so much bureaucracy (Well, who are we up here to say that, eh).

the government argument is in itself valid, but it does not apply to the US for over two centuries
US citizens want (as an individual) / need (as a society) guns to protect themselves from fellow citizens. in any other developed country that would be called a civil war.

PS: while this has been perceived as "cultural" aspect in the past, the latest racial movements could provide possibly breeding grounds for rather bloody riots - and then you have your government fighting the poor citizens

[skypilot]

48-62 years......... depending on what and when one benchmarks as the start of a movement of de-segregation, elimination of "separate but equal", integration, affirmative action, quotas, equality, etc. and yet we seem to be back at the same general starting point we were at in the 1960s once again.

This is relevant again it seems.........

[rick_iles]

So true ......!

[JoePa]

Yes - it was a very sad event - feel very sorry for the dead cops and their families - feel sorry for the black guys that got shot - who is to blame? - why are people so mad at cops? - is it the cops that caused such an event to happen? - you tell me - people are angry in this country - just look at what happened a few days ago - you got a person who has money and influence breaks all kinds of laws - lies and lies about everything and nothing happens to her - lied under oath too - if this was the average Joe - he'd be in jail - all it is going to take is some disaster to happen - either natural or man made and this country is going to explode

[skypilot]

Yes - it was a very sad event - feel very sorry for the dead cops and their families - feel sorry for the black guys that got shot - who is to blame? - why are people so mad at cops? - is it the cops that caused such an event to happen? - you tell me - people are angry in this country - just look at what happened a few days ago - you got a person who has money and influence breaks all kinds of laws - lies and lies about everything and nothing happens to her - lied under oath too - if this was the average Joe - he'd be in jail - all it is going to take is some disaster to happen - either natural or man made and this country is going to explode

The FBI and hillary have set a pathetically low bar now for security clearances. I feel sorry for Gen. Patraeus and many others that lost their clearances over lesser issues like finances, DUI, potentially embarrassing the Agency, protecting loved ones, association with wonky "friends" etc.

I hope her and all her guilty staff are completely denied any and all clearances for life.

There are huge inequities in America that have been ignored, but now the ship is hitting the sand of Middle to Upper class with the BS liberal agenda and Obama and his minions twisting the screws, killing the economy, kissing Iran's azz, fighting with one hand, and showing a limp wrist. All of which has pitted brother against brother and incited anger in all.

Cops have two choices, continue to serve and protect or throw up their persecuted hands and watch from the sidelines. Ask Chiraq and Boston how that sideline game is working out.

Let obama, hillary, bloomberg, de blasio, emanuel, feinstein, jesse, sharpton and there ilk patrol the streets.

[Waftrudnir]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/authorities-highway-gunman-motivated-police-shootings-40441360

[COLOR=#333333]A black Army veteran accused of shooting indiscriminately at passing cars and police on a Tennessee highway told investigators he was troubled by police violence against African-Americans, authorities said Friday.
[COLOR=#333333]It was one of several spasms of violence across the country this week amid boiling tensions over policing and race. One woman died and three others, including one police officer, were injured in the rampage early Thursday morning.
[COLOR=#333333]Meanwhile, police say officers have been targeted in Georgia and Missouri in the aftermath of two high-profile killings of black men by law enforcement and the Dallas attack that left five officers dead and seven more wounded. Other departments reported being bombarded with threats and some implemented new policies requiring officers to patrol in pairs.
[COLOR=#333333]Civilians also have been caught in the fray. The woman who died in Tennessee was a newspaper carrier driving down the highway.
[COLOR=#333333]The Tennessee Bureau of Investigation said in a news release that the preliminary investigation revealed that the suspect, 37-year-old former soldier Lakeem Keon Scott, who is black, was troubled by the incidents in other states, hundreds of miles away. All those shot were white, police said.
[COLOR=#333333]His cousin Sarah Scott said she is so close to him he called her "sister." She said she is shocked by the allegation he was enraged by police violence against African-Americans.
[COLOR=#333333]"He's into his culture, he really is; but never would he hurt anybody," she said. She called him an "open, big-hearted person."
[COLOR=#333333]Scott — allegedly armed with an assault rifle, a pistol and a large amount of ammunition — was wounded in a shootout with police early Thursday and remains hospitalized. Police were not able to interview him until late Friday morning, according to a statement from the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation.
[COLOR=#333333]Hours before, as Scott was in the hospital, 12 officers were shot at a Black Lives Matter protest in Dallas. Police say the sniper declared he was angry about the police shootings of black men and wanted to exterminate whites. Five of the officers died.
[COLOR=#333333]In south Georgia, police said one officer was ambushed Friday when he came to an apartment complex to investigate a report of a break-in. Another officer was fired upon by a motorist north of Atlanta. And just outside St. Louis, police say an officer was ambushed during a traffic stop.