RCMP declares 10+ round 10/22 mags prohibited

[mosquito]

Also every gun owner in Canada should belong to CSSA and/or NFA. It boggles my mind why most gun owners won't spend a box of shells to join an organization which has a voice in Ottawa and locally. TC

I'll second that! SCI is another one more should belong to too. The Anti crowd as a billion dollar spin doctor (CBC) on their side feeding Canadians truth mixed with fiction and half truths that fit their ideology so the more and stronger the voices the better... Doubtful Libs will listen to truth (You need the letters LIE to spell LIbEral) but if enough votes are threatened some might listen.

[patvetzal]

The Butler Creek magazines have been sold in Canada since 1978 which was designed for the 10/22..Since when do we have capacity restrictions on rimfire???

Since the RCMP decided that we would!

[patvetzal]

The issue arises because the exemption of rimfire mags from capacity limits applies only to rifle magazines. Rimfire handgun mags are limited to 10 rounds.

From what I read, if the magazines were designed for rifles, they were ok. Even the RCMP blurb states that " you MAY have a prohibited mag", not that you DO have etc

[patvetzal]

Lots of ways to handle the 10/22 mag issue correctly but High River spoke volumes about the RCMP brass and their playbook.

In other words, if we are found with a 20/30 round magazine while in a car acident or our house is being flooded etc, then we WILL be charged by the RCMP. At which point we lose our PAL and any jobs which require a clean record.....

[welsh]

From what I read, if the magazines were designed for rifles, they were ok. Even the RCMP blurb states that " you MAY have a prohibited mag", not that you DO have etc

This is not what the RCMP direction actually says:
22 Long Rifle calibre magazines designed or manufactured for 10/22 platform rifles are also inherently designed or manufactured for 10/22 platform handguns. Because 22 Long Rifle calibre 10/22 platform magazines are designed or manufactured for use in a semi-automatic handgun, they are prohibited devices if they are capable of containing more than 10 cartridges.

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/notice-avis-2016-07-27-eng.htm

In other words, if we are found with a 20/30 round magazine while in a car acident or our house is being flooded etc, then we WILL be charged by the RCMP.

The RCMP letter says you won't.

[rick_iles]

This is not what the RCMP direction actually says:
22 Long Rifle calibre magazines designed or manufactured for 10/22 platform rifles are also inherently designed or manufactured for 10/22 platform handguns. Because 22 Long Rifle calibre 10/22 platform magazines are designed or manufactured for use in a semi-automatic handgun, they are prohibited devices if they are capable of containing more than 10 cartridges.

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/notice-avis-2016-07-27-eng.htm



The RCMP letter says you won't.

That RCMP directive means nothing as I posted earlier.

[patvetzal]

This is not what the RCMP direction actually says:
22 Long Rifle calibre magazines designed or manufactured for 10/22 platform rifles are also inherently designed or manufactured for 10/22 platform handguns. Because 22 Long Rifle calibre 10/22 platform magazines are designed or manufactured for use in a semi-automatic handgun, they are prohibited devices if they are capable of containing more than 10 cartridges.

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/notice-avis-2016-07-27-eng.htm



The RCMP letter says you won't.

Mine were made thirty years before any handgun that they would fit....

[welsh]

Yes, but read the RCMP statement again: "magazines designed or manufactured for 10/22 platform rifles are also inherently designed or manufactured for 10/22 platform handguns."

Nothing in that statement suggests a magazine manufactured before a given date is exempt.

[mosquito]

These seem to about sum it up, PROHIBITED anything over 10 rounds.... at this point would you believe an organization that kicked down doors and searched houses without warrants, seems intent on "clarifying" items etc.... not pinned will equal charges is my expectation! They will be looking for a test case (as an example).


http://www.police.midland.on.ca/news...2#.V4-jO_mU0uV
The CFP specifically addressed one of the more common overcapacity 10/22 platform magazines, the Ruger BX-25 magazine, which contains 25 cartridges and is described by Ruger as being manufactured for both the Ruger 10/22 rifle series and 22 Charger pistol series, identifying the BX-25 magazine as a prohibited device (CFP Bulletin 72, 2013-09-05).
Additionally, the Canadian International Trade Tribunal (CITT) decided that a similar magazine, the Ruger BX-25x2 magazine (50 shots), was a prohibited device (AP-2013-059).
Magazines up to 110 shot capacity are available. Although the 22LR cartridge is less powerful than most, it is nonetheless lethal, and combined with high capacity magazines, presents a public safety hazard and an officer safety concern when responding to incidents involving these magazines.
Notwithstanding the steps taken to inform the Canadian public and firearms businesses, it appears that prohibited 10/22 platform magazines continue to be imported into Canada and sold by unqualified businesses and individuals.
Rationale
In short, 10/22 platform magazines are designed and/or manufactured for both rifles and handguns. While rimfire calibre rifle magazines are not regulated, the capacity of handgun magazines is universally limited to ten cartridges, and in consequence, 10/22 platform magazines are prohibited devices if the ten shot limit is exceeded. Whether the magazine is intended by the importer to be used in a rifle is not relevant to the classification determination. Summary
All 22 Long Rifle calibre magazines for the 10/22 platform, regardless of brand, are prohibited devices at any capacity exceeding ten shots.


and more here.
http://calibremag.ca/1022-magazine-update/

[welsh]

"Possession of Prohibited Device under S.84, Part 4 CCC not recommended as a stand-alone charge unless RPG's of criminal intent, activity, or association exists within the totality of the situation, and or public safety."