Anti wind turbine thread ?

[JBen]

Hoping Smallgamer. The Cons certainly have their faults, however some common sense...no way to prove much of anything, but it would take an incredible amount of stuff, to make plausible arguements as prov we wouldn't be so much better off. If only, people had listened or taken the blinders off in 2010. And in some cases set aside their own self interest.

Am am no longer a resident of Whitby ( Christine Elliot's old riding) but in the short time Lorne Coe has been in. He's gained a ton of respect, as just a normal person who cares, deeply about what's been done to the province on the whole, and where it's heading.

just think about this.
The energy file in Ontario alone will undoubtedly be cited as one of the worst examples of mismanagement, corruption/collusion, abuses of a few things and more. Anywhere. And that's only the one topic, and what's "known".

[greatwhite]

Brown seems to be a Red Tory even more so than Mayor Tory. I wanted Lisa to win, but she backed out. Brown doesn't seem to have the fire in his belly for leadership and I my gut also says don't trust him.

We'll see what Patrick Brown can do, although I have my reservations. I was fully supportive of him after first hearing him speak locally, even inviting him down to my gun club to speak and sell memberships during his leadership campaign. I hopped on board the campaign team after I got to know him a bit, and was very enthusiastic about his victory. But now I worry. A central plank of his leadership campaign platform was that party policy would be developed at the riding association level and travel upward, rather than vice versa. He proved that a lie at the first convention, decreeing that the PCs would implement a carbon tax, albeit "revenue neutral" (yeah right). Thus, although I am going to vote PC because my PC MPP is a really good guy/friend/competent, and Wynn has got to go, I wonder about Brown's integrity. I am now officially non-partisan on both the federal and provincial levels, but generally speaking my vote is the PCs to lose.

http://www.stthomastimesjournal.com/...-hot-air-level

[welsh]

Nor Barbara Hall Welsh.
Not even sure Lastman qualifies. He was just off the wall and all over the map.

Since 2010 the trend has been conservative mayors in Toronto. What happened before that isn't really relevant to today's politics.

It is simply not a fact that the GTA always votes Liberal.

[smallgamer]

I reread the headline in the link I posted, and saw something questionable, and made an inquiry:

Sent to John Miner at Postmedia:


On Friday, August 12, 2016 11:43 AM, SG wrote:


Hello


My name is SG, and I am a constituent of Jeff Yurek. I am curious as to the headline "Elgin-Middlesex-London MPP Jeff Yurek takes hunting rights to whole new hot air level".


I fully agree with Mr. Yurek on this issue, and just wish to be clear. Are you suggesting that he is blowing hot air, or was the headline a typo?


I look forward to your response.


Regards,


Mr. SG
St. Thomas, On.






11:53am

Hi SG: Reporters here don't write the headlines and I must admit I'm not sure either what point they were trying to make with that one. John

[smallgamer]

PM from my MPP: The print edition has a better headline. Thanks for following up, much appreciated.

[JBen]

I've long wondered that about Welsh. When Ford first won ( in a fairly rare at any level landslide) I thought the provincial Liberals were done. And even when it became abundantly clear Ford had to go. There remained a strong "allegiance". If there anything that can really be looked at as the take away.

Toronto sure does have an ability to pick them. Their record is well about as bad, illogical and lacking common sense as we see at QP.
Ford
Hall
Lastman
McWynne


"red Torys"
reality is Canadian are (perhaps were) statistically (numerically) slightly left of center. The vast bulk of society is in the middle. Maybe a little left on this, a little right on that. Or depending on the times slightly L or R.

A time and place for everything.
"red Torys" is where they should be (imo)

some things have changed though, and like the States I think we're losing the middle. More polarized, more "winner take all". And at least provincially I'm utterly convinced we have to change the ridings. Either numbers of, or their concentrations. Aka split a few rural or northern ridings into 2. Or combine a few ridings inside the GTA from 2 to 1.

[smallgamer]

Brown seems to be a Red Tory even more so than Mayor Tory. I wanted Lisa to win, but she backed out. Brown doesn't seem to have the fire in his belly for leadership and I my gut also says don't trust him.

Jeff, my MPP, supported Elliot. Maybe I should have got on board that train. However, PB has welcomed him into his shadow cabinet in a big way so that's good.

[welsh]

I reread the headline in the link I posted, and saw something questionable, and made an inquiry

The (online) headline is now "Elgin-Middlesex-London MPP Jeff Yurek takes up wind farm hunting ban fight in region."

[smallgamer]

The (online) headline is now "Elgin-Middlesex-London MPP Jeff Yurek takes up wind farm hunting ban fight in region."

Yup:
Hi SG: I'm going to try to get the headline changed online.



John Miner The London Free Press
519-667-4517

Got approval for headline change. Should show up shortly online.


John Miner The London Free Press
519-667-4517

[werner.reiche]

Brown seems to be a Red Tory even more so than Mayor Tory. I wanted Lisa to win, but she backed out. Brown doesn't seem to have the fire in his belly for leadership and I my gut also says don't trust him.

Brown "seems" more red tory because the days of blue tories getting elected in Ontario are over? Does he think a carbon tax is a good idea? Of course not - but you're not going to get elected in Ontario if you say that out loud. Remember Hudak - he said what he thought and look where that got him.