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September 1st, 2016, 05:16 PM
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Congratulations , --- regarding your decision to get a hunting-dog . --- Since your mind seems to be made-up already I won't try to sway it . --- However , as Sharon (and others) pointed out a "milder-mannered" pooch might be more suitable (due to circumstances) . --- I have never owned a GSP but was "fanatic" about my GWP (German Wirehaired Pointer) . They are just as high-strung and energetic as the GSPs . --- Generally , a NEWBIE (to dog-ownership) finds it easier to train himself as well as the dog if he chooses a more sedate BUDDY . --- What-ever your decision is going to be : Good Luck !
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September 1st, 2016 05:16 PM
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September 1st, 2016, 05:31 PM
#22
If I wasn't a hunter I would own an Airdale. Great dogs.
I’m suspicious of people who don't like dogs, but I trust a dog who doesn't like a person.
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September 2nd, 2016, 10:18 AM
#23
I have 2 Gsps, they are the first dogs my husband and I have ever owned - 2 years old and 9 months old, both female. Best decision we ever made though the energy level was still a surprise even after all the research we did. What ever level you think they are, add about one third to that, I would joke that my oldest has ADHD, her energy level is much higher than my youngest.
They are amazing dogs but I urge you not to be suckered in my their eyes (learned this the hard way), these dogs need structure especially for the first year. I use clicker training for the first year and ensure 100% compliance before introducing an e-collar (which I use for recall).
This is the book I used to create my plan :
http://www.clickertraining.com/files...hapter_One.pdf
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September 2nd, 2016, 03:38 PM
#24
Thanks a lot. Looks like a good resource.
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September 6th, 2016, 08:11 PM
#25
Great offer from Jakezilla you should seriously think about taking him up on it.
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September 7th, 2016, 12:01 PM
#26

Originally Posted by
Gemini898
these dogs need structure especially for the first year.
This is solid advice. I skipped through the PDF you linked and I have mixed feeling about it - too much info on some things, not enough on others.
I certainly do not recommend clicker training for a hunting dog (done that).
"The dog is Small Munsterlander, the gun is Beretta."
"You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed" A. Saint-Exupery.
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September 7th, 2016, 12:40 PM
#27

Originally Posted by
vom Dufenshmirtz
This is solid advice. I skipped through the PDF you linked and I have mixed feeling about it - too much info on some things, not enough on others.
I certainly do not recommend clicker training for a hunting dog (done that).
As an aside, I was just reading about a new study which showed no difference between clicker training, use of a verbal marker ("Bravo") with a food treat, and use of a food treat with no marker in training a simple task.
A lot of claims are made that clicker training is magic, but they don't hold up.
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September 7th, 2016, 02:41 PM
#28

Originally Posted by
vom Dufenshmirtz
This is solid advice. I skipped through the PDF you linked and I have mixed feeling about it - too much info on some things, not enough on others.
I certainly do not recommend clicker training for a hunting dog (done that).
I know a ton of people who won't use clickers for their hunting dogs, personally I haven't had a bad experience with it. I clicker trained my oldest until she was a year old and I still introduce new commands with the clicker. Personally, I think the clicker helps me more than the dog, I don't like to speak during training sessions so I use the clicker and my body language to do the speaking for me.
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September 7th, 2016, 02:48 PM
#29

Originally Posted by
vom Dufenshmirtz
This is solid advice. I skipped through the PDF you linked and I have mixed feeling about it - too much info on some things, not enough on others.
I certainly do not recommend clicker training for a hunting dog (done that).
What happened when you tried to do clicker training with your hunting dog(breed?)? What issues/problems did you run into? I'd like to know if I will have some future problems.
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September 7th, 2016, 02:51 PM
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I use clicker training for a new dog in the house.... basic obedience .Once it's in the field , I don't use clicker training, although it is useful for a new pup in the field who isn't isn't moving away from the sound of a clicker yet .
It has to be connected pretty soon though to the "come now" command/ e collar use. The dog won't hear a clicker 300 yards out there. 
edited for : hear not here
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