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September 12th, 2016, 02:28 PM
#11
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
JBen
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They (she) are realizing they are in very deep do do. Especially because for essentially the past 16 years ( prefer not to split hairs) they've have been "buying" their votes (wins) from the GTA and Unions. As you rightfully said Northern O this admin in particular, like few or no others has been playing Urban/Rural. Up until recently ( lets not split hairs) very few people (relatively speaking) have called them on it, called spades spades.
The GTA while they are starting to feel things, have not and are not feeling things near as much. Pretty much blind to what things are doing.
So 8% for them.
and 28% for rural Ontarians.
Don't think its so much a ploy to further wedge Rural/Urban as it is simply. I'm in a world of trouble and I better start sending some love towards Rural Ontario as opposed to just Urban Ontario.
And frankly "if" Urbanites "resent" it, good. Its about time they start paying "their fare share". No-body wants wind except urbanites....Fine then they can start paying for it. And no body consumes as much power as the cities. Rural Ontario should be getting a discount.
And oddly enough a month or so ago, it's exactly what I proposed to FMc.
Never thought they'd actually do the right thing.
But as Rick said
Too little, too late.
Read the rest of what the Liberals want to do (adding 100 000 child care spaces; 350 000 home care nursing hours and 1.3 million hours of personal support for families who are taking care of their parents; increasing lead math teachers up to 3 in all elementary schools) and weep. How much does Ontarians think this is all going to cost us? That stuff will need to be paid for. That means we will have to borrow more money because this woman is incapable of cutting anything.
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September 12th, 2016 02:28 PM
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September 12th, 2016, 02:43 PM
#12
Guys, this will only apply if you meet the requirements, they are the same requirements as the 8.5 cents /kWh reduction, meaning that for a single person you need to be making something like $30000 or less annually to get the credit, anyone making a wadge they can live on will continue to be gouged.
If you make a living wage you will have to pay your own prescriptions, eye care, dental, physio, hydro, gas, etc, but if you are poor then they will pay for you. To me it feels like they are trying to make the middle class the lower class.
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September 12th, 2016, 02:54 PM
#13
Lol, yep Dyth. That and as others have noted..
Buts viewed in a vacuum, or as a "stand alone" it's still "the right thing to do".
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September 12th, 2016, 03:02 PM
#14
Fox, where did you see that. I don't read all the papers like I used to. Heck I try not to read any papers anymore. 
So Ive only read this article, and it would be unlike the Sun, not to point that out if there are qualifiers.
they are claiming that residential, rural and farm rate payers will get an 8% haircut (the hst). And rural Ontarians will receive an additional 20%. They then go on to explain that for the average household ( which would be based on kilowatts used) the savings will be X
Based on my last bill which was 210 for one month. It would basically save me 700/year.
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September 12th, 2016, 03:50 PM
#15

Originally Posted by
trimmer21
We've seen this smoke and mirrors shyte before. Sure,they'll reduce the provincial tax portion of the HST,but,they'll OK another rate hike or two to make up for it. This government will NEVER give something with one hand and not take back with the other.

We can about this government forever and things will not change until the taxpayers of Ontario remember this irresponsible bunch of scam artists at the next election. Everybody complains, but lets stick together and vote them out next time.
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September 12th, 2016, 05:19 PM
#16
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September 12th, 2016, 05:35 PM
#17

Originally Posted by
jaycee
These cuts in our Hydro Rates , do not take effect till Jan. of next year

, wow ! they are really trying to be nice to us. In the mean time we are still paying these absurd rates for another four months,and look at how much they will take in over these next four months.

Yea, like I said, just in time for the carbon tax to kick in. We won't realize a cent in savings.
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September 12th, 2016, 05:54 PM
#18
Perfect. Appease the masses in the short term without ruining any gracious contracts with your liberal party doners.
A trophy is in the eye of the bow holder
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September 12th, 2016, 06:25 PM
#19
Promise voters a percentage return, then claw it back and more in another fantasy project with no redress.
Row harder the "Queen" wants to water ski............ again.
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September 12th, 2016, 06:42 PM
#20
Big notice at our library claimed that low income homes ( $50,000) could get a rebate so I applied. Seems that you need about seven family members to qualify at $50,000. Since we only have two members, our income must be down around $28,000 to qualify...