Algonquin Land Claim - signed

[DanO]

What changes is Eastern Ontario between Algonquin Park and the Ottawa River is now primarily owned by the Algonquins. They have timber rights, water rights, mineral rights, and waterfront on the Ottawa River to develop. They control access to what used to be Crown Land. Just because they aren't kicking private landowners off doesn't mean they aren't going to control access to large portions of the land. The non FN hunt is over as we know it for moose and deer (it has been for years as MikePal implied). The FN hunt first and receive the vast majority of the tags.

This is a huge ATV and snowmobiling area and users may fine there will be a cost to recreate through the FN land.

The other thing is many FN groups don't feel represented within this settlement. Will the new Treaty really silence the FN and achieve harmony or will we still have renegades that don't comply with the treaty?

It makes very little difference to SW Ontario that's why there hasn't been an uproar. It's like the topic of windmills when discussed with Toronto or Ottawa residents.

Stay tuned folks and hope your local FN band isn't watching this multimillion dollar settlement.

[DanO]

I think every Ontario resident, should apply, as an indigenous resident.

They are Jim, that's why Chief Kirby Whiteduck has insisted on some geneological evidence of FN blood. They left that part of the decision to the FN themselves. Trouble is nobody seems sure as to what fraction is too little to say you're FN. Currently any fraction will do as far as I know.

[MikePal]

They are Jim, that's why Chief Kirby Whiteduck has insisted on some geneological evidence of FN blood. They left that part of the decision to the FN themselves. Trouble is nobody seems sure as to what fraction is too little to say you're FN. Currently any fraction will do as far as I know.

It's not as difficult anymore....DNA testing is done to identify children etc that would be entitled to Band Status.

some info on how that is done: http://www.ammsa.com/publications/wi...ian-status-lim

[Hunter John]

All that land for 7 to 8000 Algonquins not to mention the minimum 300 million they will collect as well.

"We were once wealthy, we lived well off the land," Kirby Whiteduck, the chief of the Algonquins of Pikwakanagan, the largest First Nations reserve in the territory, said. "Then we were begging for a piece of land. The agreement-in-principle is more of a weight off our shoulders, not so much of a celebration."

Are they going to go back in time and live off the land again?? Of course not . they will continue to exploit the government and everyone else that this agreement will allow them to with impunity.

I'm sorry but we cant be held hostage for things that happened so long ago .

[greatwhite]

Seems fair to me.

Well now that they have what they wanted outside of that area they should have to pay full tax.
If they sell to Canadians on Canadian Soil they should be charged taxes.

Pesronally I think it was all a bunch of crap because pretty much every single race has been taken advantaged of by another race.

[terrym]

If they now own and control all this land then the Province of Ontario should stop providing electricity, fire, police, road maintenance both summer and winter. They want self governance then give it to them. "All of it".

[greatwhite]

Completely Agree.

If they now own and control all this land then the Province of Ontario should stop providing electricity, fire, police, road maintenance both summer and winter. They want self governance then give it to them. "All of it".

[DanO]

I wonder if they run their land like the Quebec government runs the ZEC system. All access roads will have gates and people tending the gate. You'll need a permit to use their land. I noticed they cherry picked pieces of the crown land that would be worth huge bucks if leased or sold. eg. Menet Lake, Waterloo Lake, Big Bissett Lake etc. South shore of Ottawa river from Bissetts to Deux Riviere. All very marketable land not the centre of the bush somewhere.

[terrym]

They may find the land not as marketable as they think. Drive down the shore from Sauble Beach and count the cottages for sale. Many are on First Nations leases. I would never invest in treaty lands. They decide to change their minds in 10yrs you will have a problem.

[DanO]

Or they decide not to renew the lease at the last minute the way they did up on the Peninsula. They gave them a very short time to remove contents and or the building, then it became Band property. Gates went up and security was hired.