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    Best part is he spent 4 hrs after checking us making sure we didnt, please show me in regs where u cant ?

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    Imagine this, were on a lake where catching 40 trout a day is no problem but 32 of them are gonna be caught and released cuz in the slot..... What if one angler catches the 8 legal sized fish and the other 3 guys catch fish not in the slot...

    I guess anglers could reel fish up to the hole and once determined that its not in the slot trade his rod for the net with another angler.,.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johny View Post
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    100% of people I have fished with in the last 30+ years all Party Fish.
    It's part of the "culture".
    Shared catch is part of the camaraderie of the day.
    Anyone trying to push this rule will quickly find themselves persona non grata.
    Consider this: If fishing was slow and one d00shb@g catches a limit but another guy caught nothing legal---the DB goes home with his limit and the other guy has to stop to buy chicken on the way home--- guaranteed the DB never gets asked to go fishing again.

    Rigid application of "No Party Fishing" is a regulation that needs to change.
    That is a guy sharing his limit with you , which is a lot different than him catching another limit for you as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishermccann View Post
    That is a guy sharing his limit with you , which is a lot different than him catching another limit for you as well.
    Maybe.
    If you gift the fish to someone in while you are in the boat--it's called party fishing.
    If you gift the fish to someone when your feet on the boat launch-- it's just a gift.
    It is still a regulation that needs to be altered to conform with the social culture of fishing in a group.

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    You can party hunt for moose, deer and bear but not grouse. And you cannot party fish --but most everyone does.
    I do agree with Johnny. There's little uniformity in the regs and the intent for such variation needs to be justified.
    I was never, and never will be an advocate for slot sizes or size limitations, especially for trout when mortality can be higher than if you took the first fish caught for a limit.
    Berating a C.O. for having to enforce these questionable laws is going after the wrong person.

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    johny and sawbill hit the nail on the head: there is an unnecessary level of complexity in our regs (both hunting and fishing) that serves no purpose.
    well, maybe it does to those who always like to lecture others - and it would be only natural that somebody who made a real effort to decipher the various regs/laws/by-laws that could possibly apply to a given (often hypothetical) situation to get some credit for this exercise.
    long story short: complexity is the greatest enemy of compliance.
    other jurisdictions simplified regulations successfully. we on the other hand defend the current state (just because it's always been that way - not because our regs make much sense)

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    It's tough to watch a good steelheader handing trout off to his picket line full of buddies that can't fish. They come along because they know they're going home with fish - skill or no skill. Steelhead are underseige in some streams in S On so they lowered the limit to 2 fish. Doesn't make much difference if you're party fishing with a crew. Warm water species seem to be better at handling over harvest.

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    Maybe to be consistent they should get rid of all party harvesting. that would simplify the rules for everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johny View Post
    Maybe.
    If you gift the fish to someone in while you are in the boat--it's called party fishing.
    If you gift the fish to someone when your feet on the boat launch-- it's just a gift.
    It is still a regulation that needs to be altered to conform with the social culture of fishing in a group.
    if you gift a fish in the boat and you are both within your daily and possession limits it doesn't mean you are guilty of party fishing however it counts against both your limits so doesn't help either of you for that particular day. It does however free up one in your possession limit if you are fishing the next day. If you gift a fish when you are on land it's the same deal, it still counts against your daily limit.
    The social culture of sharing fish within a group I agree with and do so all the time however it has to be within the set limits. You do so to share with your friends not to circumvent the daily limits.
    I agree that some hunting and fishing regs could be a little more clear and the fact that there are 4563863947499 different WMUs drives me nut. But the daily/possession limit rules and the party fishing rules seem pretty clear. Lots of people disagree with them or ignore them but that doesn't mean they aren't clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johny View Post
    I know the rules of the forum.
    Forbidden to encourage or flaunt breaking the law.
    But....


    100% of people I have fished with in the last 30+ years all Party Fish.
    It's part of the "culture".
    Shared catch is part of the camaraderie of the day.
    Anyone trying to push this rule will quickly find themselves persona non grata.
    Consider this: If fishing was slow and one d00shb@g catches a limit but another guy caught nothing legal---the DB goes home with his limit and the other guy has to stop to buy chicken on the way home--- guaranteed the DB never gets asked to go fishing again.

    Rigid application of "No Party Fishing" is a regulation that needs to change.
    Look as with all rules its because enough people took advantage and a law has been created. Its about preventing abuse where one guy will catch his limit of fish run in "gift" his fish and go out and catch more. Your allowed to keep 1 days limit of fish you can give it away but you can't retain more than 1 limit of fish.

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    Best part is he spent 4 hrs after checking us making sure we didnt, please show me in regs where u cant ?
    http://www.outdoorcanada.ca/record-5...-investigation
    If you can party fish this guy would be a Hero since you can't party fish this guy is a zero.
    Must have been a reason he was watching you because really so would I.
    Time in the outdoors is never wasted

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