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    Quote Originally Posted by rick_iles View Post
    I agree with Brent. Be very careful how you articulate information to dispatch or a 911 operator! Just reporting, " there's a guy on my property with a gun," will no doubt result in an emergency response.
    Yes,that's not smart and can have some horrendous repercussions far above and beyond any minor trespassing complaint. Remember the Jonathan Logan incident?
    If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....

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    If you haven't been raised outside of the city limits and as an adult purchase property and build your home on somewhat of a large acreage and a person/persons trespass onto your land with guns your automatic instinct is fear for your life . I have witnessed this before where I use to live in Eastern Ontario. I had some neighbors move from Ottawa and purchase some land beside my 10 acres of property. Both couples had made the 911 call because this type of trespassing behavior with guns was completely out of their norm. I am sure they reported it as intruders on their property with guns. I agree that someone who is familiar with this type of trespassing behavior when reporting should be very careful on how they convey the information to the 911 operator. BUT it is what it is and making it seem like an everyday occurrence and downplaying it will someday come back and bite you in the arse when someone is seriously hurt or shot. What message does it send to the people moving into the country that really feel threatened. In my opinion it makes it worse for the law abiding hunters who respsect the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yellow dog View Post
    If you haven't been raised outside of the city limits and as an adult purchase property and build your home on somewhat of a large acreage and a person/persons trespass onto your land with guns your automatic instinct is fear for your life . I have witnessed this before where I use to live in Eastern Ontario. I had some neighbors move from Ottawa and purchase some land beside my 10 acres of property. Both couples had made the 911 call because this type of trespassing behavior with guns was completely out of their norm. I am sure they reported it as intruders on their property with guns. I agree that someone who is familiar with this type of trespassing behavior when reporting should be very careful on how they convey the information to the 911 operator. BUT it is what it is and making it seem like an everyday occurrence and downplaying it will someday come back and bite you in the arse when someone is seriously hurt or shot. What message does it send to the people moving into the country that really feel threatened. In my opinion it makes it worse for the law abiding hunters who respsect the law.
    Ah,yes,that great urban/rural divide. I used to go out of my way to educate new residences from the city,as you describe,that seeing hunters on the land is not an uncommon occurrence and to be wary,but, they don't need to panic. Just call the Police and let us look after it. Our dispatchers knew and in almost every case,we knew who the hunters were and could resolve most issues with a simple phone call or interview.
    If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....

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    Quote Originally Posted by yellow dog View Post
    BUT it is what it is and making it seem like an everyday occurrence and downplaying it will someday come back and bite you in the arse when someone is seriously hurt or shot.
    It is what it is: people dressed in blaze orange, carrying guns during the deer hunting season. Report it as something other than what it is, and you can certainly find it coming back to bite you in the arse.
    "The language of dogs and birds teaches you your own language."
    -- Jim Harrison (1937 - 2016)

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    And in my neighbors case it wasn't what you describe above. And it did bite them in the arse... the trespassers. Beautiful day going hunting this afternoon on the land i have permission to hunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yellow dog View Post
    And in my neighbors case it wasn't what you describe above. And it did bite them in the arse... the trespassers. Beautiful day going hunting this afternoon on the land i have permission to hunt.
    Good! That's how it should be. Nice to hear things worked out.
    If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....

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    There's always the "stupid gits what stupid does" approach. If the pricks are ignorant enough to disregard your order to leave as the legal landowner of the property.
    I'm pretty sure I'd get a sudden hankering To go do some work on my land. I'd pull my 28 ton horst wagon past their truck that was blocking my lane way
    It's not my fault that the bunk edge rakes a gouge down the entire side of the truck, and the corner of my loader bucket tears their side mirror off. Maybe they'd get the hint when I start dropping trees with the chainsaw. Next comes my manure spreader.
    Last edited by Fenelon; November 14th, 2016 at 09:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenelon View Post
    There's always the "stupid gits what stupid does" approach. If the pricks are ignorant enough to disregard your order to leave as the legal landowner of the property.
    I'm pretty sure I'd get a sudden hankering To go do some work on my land. I'd pull my 28 ton horst wagon past their truck that was blocking my lane way
    It's not my fault that the bunk edge rakes a gouge down the entire side of the truck, and the corner of my loader bucket tears their side mirror off. Maybe they'd get the hint when I start dropping trees with the chainsaw. Next comes my manure spreader.
    You would still have to pay to repair the damage. So is it worth it to act like a spoiled child, with having to pay out for damages and face charges for damage to private property?

    On a side note had problems with a lady with no hunting signs posted on her place, which was across the road from some crown land. Well I was looking for squirrels she took it as a good idea to wipe grease on my truck windows( the nice thick EP stuff) and door handles. Short call to the MNRF and there was a CO standing there with into two hours. Lady was told if she so much as crossed the road to the crown land that the CO was going to lay charges. I have no idea what he would have charged her with, and he never said. She likes to walk her dog on the crownland so did not want hunters there.

    A fewvmonths later I was walking in the trail to the crownland and guess who was coming out with her dog. When she saw me and remembered who I was her face turned white. She gets upset and asks me to please not call the MNR. I told her it did not matter to me if she walks her dog there or not, and we spent about the next hour or so talking. Before she left, she told me that she had never even talked to a hunter before because where she grewup no one hunted. She also did not know it was ILLEGAL to interfere or harass hunters, and she was amazed at the idea that there was a difference between "Hunter" and "poachers".
    Take the warning labels off. Darwin will solve the problem.

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    Thanks for the great story Snowalker. They should teach canadian heritage in school.

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    There was a vandalized vehicle complaint called in to the OPP many years ago when I was still in law enforcement. A colleague and I attended and found a new car with the roof,trunk and hood caved in parked in a private laneway blocking access to a several fields that local farmers were trying to get ready for fall planting. On interviewing the complainant and the landowner,it was found that they'd been told a couple of times that this was private property,they were trespassing,blocking the roadway and not to come back,but,they chose not to listen. There was a lot of tracks from large farm tractors in the dirt and along the top of the car back onto the dirt,but,the farmer disavowed any knowledge of how the car got damaged. There were no witnesses to the event and because there were so many different tractor tracks from all the work going on in surrounding fields,it was impossible to tell which track was which. The vehicle was towed from the scene,the trespassers were issued tickets,a report was taken and not another word was ever heard about it. A very powerful message was sent that day.
    If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....

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