Waterfowling in a boat question.

[Sinker]

The word BOAT, or SHOOTING or MOTION/MOVING is not even in that paragraph.

Try again!

Did you read this part? [COLOR=#333333] as per s. 16 MBRs,

S.

[3Wheelerdude]

Stop your boat where it dove and wait for it to resurface and then shoot it? Not that hard... May not get it the first time but eventually you will... I chase crippled divers in a kayak in calmer waters...

I totally agree. I suggested that 100 posts ago!

That is the method we use and it works. Might be a bit more difficult, but its 100% legal. I promise!!!

[3Wheelerdude]

Did you read this part? [COLOR=#333333] as per s. 16 MBRs,

S.

Yes. Still nowhere does it say you can shoot from a moving boat.

I would seriously be happy if you point it out. That would make my hunting easier.
But I have an email that says clearly its illegal to shoot from a moving boat, chasing a cripple or not.

[krakadawn]

Stop your boat where it dove and wait for it to resurface and then shoot it? Not that hard... May not get it the first time but eventually you will... I chase crippled divers in a kayak in calmer waters...

SS, this is a practical way of doing things, did it twice the other day when the water was so calm that noise made an issue for surfacing ducks. However some days due to wind/waves shutting the motor off is less than practical and contributes to loss of bird.

I think everyone here are serious about what we do and we like to do it properly and certainly not have to look over our shoulder while doing it.

I have personally spoke with all three of these individuals...Mark, Gerry, Jeronim. Mark is the Provincial Specialist, he will try to address this issue in an upcoming OFAH magazine in his column...'Ask a CO' Gerry is virtually the head guy in the Federal Wildlife Enforcement Division, his advise/opinion should be of importance.

When I spoke with them I was clear......boat under power with loaded shotgun for the SOLE purpose of finishing off a cripple.....am I legal. Their answer was yes.

I realize reading some of this material and even talking to others who may be in a position of authority can be conflicting. Today Jeronim pointed to Provincial Regulations and Federal Regs and at times they are less than clear.....boy I think we could agree with him there.

Hopefully we have few cripples to deal with and our retrievers can handle the workload!

[3Wheelerdude]

SS, this is a practical way of doing things, did it twice the other day when the water was so calm that noise made an issue for surfacing ducks. However some days due to wind/waves shutting the motor off is less than practical and contributes to loss of bird.

I think everyone here are serious about what we do and we like to do it properly and certainly not have to look over our shoulder while doing it.

I have personally spoke with all three of these individuals...Mark, Gerry, Jeronim. Mark is the Provincial Specialist, he will try to address this issue in an upcoming OFAH magazine in his column...'Ask a CO' Gerry is virtually the head guy in the Federal Wildlife Enforcement Division, his advise/opinion should be of importance.

When I spoke with them I was clear......boat under power with loaded shotgun for the SOLE purpose of finishing off a cripple.....am I legal. Their answer was yes.

I realize reading some of this material and even talking to others who may be in a position of authority can be conflicting. Today Jeronim pointed to Provincial Regulations and Federal Regs and at times they are less than clear.....boy I think we could agree with him there.

Hopefully we have few cripples to deal with and our retrievers can handle the workload!

I hope you can get something in writing. You know what they say about words.

Imagine me sitting in front of a judge : - Mr. Judge a guy on a forum told me he spoke with Jeronim and was told it was legal to shoot from a moving boat at injured birds.
- Well mister, didn't you get an email response from Environment Canada saying it was illegal?

You can deduct what the verdict would be....

[krakadawn]

3 wheeler...I have to agree with you when one gets into these contentious issues. That's why I've asked our Enforcement Specialist to do a column on this for an upcoming issue .... however it's clear to me in the regs what we can do.......

[3Wheelerdude]

3 wheeler...I have to agree with you when one gets into these contentious issues. That's why I've asked our Enforcement Specialist to do a column on this for an upcoming issue .... however it's clear to me in the regs what we can do.......

I usually look forward to reading the new magazine. Now I am truly excited about the one that will clear this up once and for all.

Thank you.

[gonduckin]

So if retrieving a cripple is still considered hunting I have a new scenario. What if I'm hunting a stake line with a 300 meter rule and im set up 200 meters away from it in a layout. I wing a bird and it sails out past 300 meters, is the tender not allowed to finish off the bird? Of course the tenders motor is off and all forward momentum has stopped.

Tony

[steelshed]

No you would not be allowed to discharge beyond the 300m. You simply can't ignore laws for the purpose of retrieving a bird or dispatching a crippled bird. You would just have to try and net the bird. Eventually you will tire it out. Every good tender boat has a good net. You also wouldn't have to shut the boat down for this retrieval method.

[Labber]

My good tender boat usually has a retriever, to chase cripples. It's the CRACK cocaine of retrieves. Sometimes I need to shoot them first though while still under motor power.
The law doesn't "Allow" people to do things, it forbids certain actions. Shooting cripples from a boat under power is not forbidden.