Carbon Tax increases NOT put on hold

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Well fortunately the ozone layer did get fixed with all countries in the World agreeing and getting it done.

Budgets will get blown in this time of the pandemic, I have not witnesses anybody refusing the aid or sending back any cheques have you?

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Oddly enough I don't actually know a single person that applied for or collected any pandemic related benefits/aid.

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Originally Posted by fishfood

Check this out
https://globalnews.ca/news/3531614/a...-stagnant/amp/


Also the average family income in the 80s 55 thousand a year
Push forward 30 years and the average family income is 62 thousand. Wow

No wonder we can't afford nothing and houses are only 15 time as more now then then. . [emoji23].

http://www.ccsd.ca/factsheets/fs_avgin.html

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Your right about house prices and wages but are putting the blame on the wrong folk's.

In 1989 I made $89,000.00 working in the Major Crime Unit. I only got to that amount by working insane hours of overtime and court time. But I did put a lot of bad guys in jail.

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Originally Posted by Species8472

Oddly enough I don't actually know a single person that applied for or collected any pandemic related benefits/aid.

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I am not surprised at that in the least considering where you are from:

Dun Morogh is a snowy region located between the magma-strewn wasteland of the Searing Gorge to the south, the gentle ridges of Loch Modan to the east, and the swampy Wetlands to the north. Dun Morogh is home to both the gnomes of Gnomeregan and the Ironforge dwarves and is the location of the major city of Ironforge.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

I am not surprised at that in the least considering where you are from:

Dun Morogh is a snowy region located between the magma-strewn wasteland of the Searing Gorge to the south, the gentle ridges of Loch Modan to the east, and the swampy Wetlands to the north. Dun Morogh is home to both the gnomes of Gnomeregan and the Ironforge dwarves and is the location of the major city of Ironforge.

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Well true that but everybody makes at least 350k per year here.

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Originally Posted by Species8472

Well true that but everybody makes at least 350k per year here.

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Can you get me in there, or do I have to be a card carrying Conservative. LOL Be careful how you answer its always a loaded question.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Can you get me in there, or do I have to be a card carrying Conservative. LOL Be careful how you answer its always a loaded question.

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You'll be happy to know we are apolitical. Ideologies must be jettisoned at the border. The only requirement is to worship the one true God - Captain Picard.

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Originally Posted by Species8472

You'll be happy to know we are apolitical. Ideologies must be jettisoned at the border. The only requirement is to worship the one true God - Captain Picard.

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Ok as long as its not the G.A.O.T.U

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Gilroy understands full well what you are saying but the demise of the middle class lies at the feet of the Corporations and the 1% elite. Everything is manipulated to their advantage, including house prices, please read up on REIT's and the elite worldwide
who will stop at nothing to get everything.

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Look at my last post family avg income has only gone up about 6 to 7 thousand a year in the last 40 year's

But gas has doubled in the last 30 has doubled and everything thing else too. Or more . Milk is close to the same price it went up accordingly [emoji23][emoji2] lol


And what was 50 to 100g to live in is now 500 to 1.4 million.
I see you did look lol got busy
We our selves our are own worst enemy lol.





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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Well JBEN you and I are about the same age, basically grew up in the same era with the same mortgages and house prices and everything else. We even had the same illness , I had to stop work at 48 years old with three kids and a wife to keep and when I had 30 years on I was shown the door. No more wages. Take your pension and go sick or not.

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We did And I’m pretty sure we crossed paths at least once some dark night :)

You made it 30 years with 1 job. My father died at 51. He didn’t get to draw his, but likewise was a lifer.

I’ve been laid off twice. Most people these days switch jobs I think it’s 7 times. And each time there’s a contraction/recession, those that lose jobs lose GROUND.

Look around Gilroy. How many people in PS have been laid off? Or had their wages cut 20-40%.

https://www.bankofcanada.ca/2020/09/...even-recovery/

So what does that mean say in two years time? Forget about news taxes paying for crap.

Heard today Whitby is handing out tickets to people that park sideways on their driveways.

There’s cops and firefighters, armies of civil servants and beuracrats to pay after all and revenue is in the toilet.

Back to the start of it.
Yes people live beyond their means, try to keep up with the 20% club. That includes.........

You can’t harp about people spending too much and not expect our govts to do the same.

Well I hope I did not come across as "harping about people spending to much" when all I was doing was explaining to FF how I managed to pull things off, essentially sticking to a budget and having to be frugal.
But that come's easily to me because I came here with nothing and from nothing like so many immigrants before me. But I digress.

I think governments should make budget and stick to them but in times like these they have to go into debt for the general good of the public and especially for those in precarious employment situations.

I see a couple of positive things right now if only the Government can get their act's together.

(1) Use the stimulus money to re train people across the board for a recovery. There are actually skills shortages all across Canada.
(2) I believe the Federal Government could easily see the release of Billion of dollars in savings accounts held by Canadian's
if they cared to issue a bond, use it for what you like Infrastructure for example and give the lenders a couple of percent, its
better than essentially nothing right now and would be guaranteed.
(3) No immigration into Canada for jobs until its determined a Canadian cannot be trained for the same job.