Two more big black eyes. What a shame!

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Blaming the trapper isn't right. Notice that the traps were set well off the trails. Nowhere,except in a designated "dog park",are dogs allowed to be off-leash when not confined to their own property. People need to keep their pets on a leash.

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nonsense indeed, it's the other way around, dogs DO NOT have to be leashed, unless there's a by-law in place.

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Originally Posted by Waftrudnir

lazy trappers like this one will cause drastic changes in regulations sooner than later. just wait until a person dies and it'll be all done with even in the land of the pelts...
I saw that before (although trapping was over there at that time only predator management). Some lazy idiot put an egg next to a public hiking trail (chicken eggs for martens, because of the few legal type of traps there even back then). Some old woman picked it up for whatever reason. The wannabe trapper came back and put out another egg, the same old woman came by and picked it up... Finally, that guy puts out the trap. Because it's next to the trail, he makes sure it cannot be stolen! Did a really good job digging all the chain with the lock in. Anyway, the old woman comes back, picks up the egg and hangs in there with her arm unable to free herself. Long story short, she died of hypothermia, because that idiot chained it to a tree with a lock.
The moral of the story, the idiot got charged, and because he lacked common sense, the rules were improved in favour of public safety: Need a sign for a trap, trap to be placed in fenced area or enclosure. A few years later, further improvement (although I don't remember what triggered that; maybe just some left wing urbanites) came along - you were supposed to put the "safety" on during the daytime (meaning you have to walk up to each trap twice a day!). Useless to say, that there's nobody left to complain about the fur market any longer...

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Honestly this has got to be one of the most off the wall craziest things I've ever heard on this forum , no humans are going to be killed by any of the traps used in this province

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Originally Posted by vom Dufenshmirtz

nonsense indeed, it's the other way around, dogs DO NOT have to be leashed, unless there's a by-law in place.

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Which is 90 percent of ontario , and the laws under the FWCA letting dogs run at large is illegal as well , very rarely is a hunting dog caught by trapper , it's pet owners that think as soon as they leave the blacktop it's okay to let their dog off the leash to run , would these people walk down dundas ,spadina or younge streets without leashing their pet ?

abra kadabra. I was waiting to hear what became of the egg?

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Originally Posted by Waftrudnir

city guy ;-)
next time I go hunting, I'll think of you when I carry my dog in a purse...

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Now,that's a mental image I certainly didn't need,but,whatever turns your crank... LOL

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Originally Posted by Sharon

Takes a special setter to find pheasant when leashed. Just giving you a hard time Trimmer. :)

However, whenever you let a dog off the leash to hunt , a multitude of things can go wrong ; an unexpected trap is just one of them . Just a risk you take. jmo

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That's exactly my point. This seems to always happen to some numpty city slicker and there's always copious amounts of finger-pointing to go around. Heaven forbid,they ever take responsibilty for their own stupidity.

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Originally Posted by trappermatt

Honestly this has got to be one of the most off the wall craziest things I've ever heard on this forum , no humans are going to be killed by any of the traps used in this province

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never said that it happened in this province. and the trap didn't "kill" that women, just her arm was caught in it. being an elderly lady without any understanding how the trap works, she was not able to free herself. she died of hypothermia, because the idiot chained it to a tree with a sturdy lock

the lessons learnt is the usual: one person - lacking common sense - will spoil it for the rest of us!

just don't put a setup on public land where there is a good chance that somebody or somebody's pet will get caught in. if you guys think you will continue to have the "right" to do so in the long run (regardless what happens), just wait a couple of years and this entire safety-insanity will get to the point that you won't even have the right to s^^t into the woods without a permit

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Originally Posted by Waftrudnir

never said that it happened in this province. and the trap didn't "kill" that women, just her arm was caught in it. being an elderly lady without any understanding how the trap works, she was not able to free herself. she died of hypothermia, because the idiot chained it to a tree with a sturdy lock

the lessons learnt is the usual: one person - lacking common sense - will spoil it for the rest of us!

just don't put a setup on public land where there is a good chance that somebody or somebody's pet will get caught in. if you guys think you will continue to have the "right" to do so in the long run (regardless what happens), just wait a couple of years and this entire safety-insanity will get to the point that you won't even have the right to s^^t into the woods without a permit

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Nearly every acre of crown land in this province is part of a registered trapline , not to mention the thousands of acres of private land trapped every year , there are more then 8000 trappers in the province , say they only set 12 traps each over 90 days of season that equates to over 8 million trap nights , and yet year after year we mange to trap with very minimal negative interaction with the general public , pets have a far greater chance of being struck by a car then caught by a trap . Now I'm not claiming trappers are perfect or that there isn't ones that don't follow the laws or one that intentionally do stupid stuff , like the rest of the world we have a percentage in our ranks that aren't legal or ethical

when you say one person , usually in these trap incidents it's the pet owner lacking common sense and like I've said it involves off leash pets , I've had to deal with some incidents in the past , involving dogs and traps and it was the same story every time , we all need to co -exist on the landscape , and trappers using baited box sets for marten fisher and coon need to get their traps up off the ground and pet owner need to respect the fact that trappers have the legal right to our heritage and livelihood

as far as safety insanity , many of us in this world have enough common sense that we don't need anymore rules and I will actively fight anymore stupid legislation

Attachment 28562Dogs need to stay on a leash!!! Page26 of the regulation summary states you cannot let your dog run at lodge during closed season for deer, moose, caribou and bears. Must be licensed and still under control if dogs used for hunting. They can run on private land, unless municipality states otherwise, but not harass game animals.

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Originally Posted by chris lavoie

Attachment 28562Dogs need to stay on a leash!!! Page26 of the regulation summary states you cannot let your dog run at lodge during closed season for deer, moose, caribou and bears. Must be licensed and still under control if dogs used for hunting. They can run on private land, unless municipality states otherwise, but not harass game animals.

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jeez if i didnt know better id swear you werre from toronta

only read the 1st article but it never said it was a legal trap set? kinda going back to a previous thread about cabelas selling traps to any joe blow off the street... just saying...

How about under control??