Gun ban talks back after a sad weekend in NS

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Originally Posted by greatwhite

I'm only a member of the OFAH but I have always wondered why all the various organizations don't pool their money and resources to fight the government on firearms issues.

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Because guns and gun's and gun owners have been used as pawns by the politicians.I stopped supporting the OFAH a number of years ago because they would only support Conservatives even although those very Conservatives betrayed the hunting and northern communities by
cancelling the spring bear hunt.Pretty simple really.

Again I ask you please tell what is so bad about the AR15. It shoots a 223 no different then the rugger ranch rifle and no more powerful. In fact you can put a military stock on the rugger ranch rifle and to the public you now have a military rifle.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

The half dozen of you that are on here daily pushing for gun right's can form your own wee group and bash on for the rights of the weekend warriors and their Ar 15,s. In the meantime I will just continue hunting with the same guns I have used for the past 40 years undeterred by the government.

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So you support Liberals who pretty much state they do not like gun owners. Wow that is really weird.

By the way your comment has nothing to do with my question.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Because guns and gun's and gun owners have been used as pawns by the politicians.I stopped supporting the OFAH a number of years ago because they would only support Conservatives even although those very Conservatives betrayed the hunting and northern communities by
cancelling the spring bear hunt.Pretty simple really.

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Originally Posted by greatwhite

Again I ask you please tell what is so bad about the AR15. It shoots a 223 no different then the rugger ranch rifle and no more powerful. In fact you can put a military stock on the rugger ranch rifle and to the public you now have a military rifle.

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I guess you hit it right on the nail yourself "to the public you now have a military rifle" who are the public now in Canada?

GW your a Canadian born man and you perceive the world through that lens, but what about the others voters in Canada, how many came here seeking refuge from War torn countries all over the World. I don't need to mention them and we don't but could go back to the end of the second world war.Vietnam,Iran,Syria,Afghanistan,Iraq, Egypt,Somalia,Lebanon, then add to that countries under the gun of dictators all
over Africa.
These voters memories are of gang's armed with military style weapon's now add to that the victim's families of shootings,domestic violence
the female victim,s of which don't care what type of gun was used it was a gun and women consist of 52% of the vote.

Now the rest of the general public see almost weekly reports of mass shootings right next door in the USA, where assault type weapon's are used,how do you think they are voting,well probably to protect their kids come hell or high water.So basically its a political football.

If I am asked tomorrow to give up my semi auto hunting rifle in order to protect my fellow Canadians I have no problem.

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Originally Posted by greatwhite

So you support Liberals who pretty much state they do not like gun owners. Wow that is really weird.

By the way your comment has nothing to do with my question.

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Just pointing out you were betrayed by the very party you voted for.

I've been a computer programmer for 20 years now and 90% of the people I have worked with are not white.
In fact all the programmers where I currently work are either Chinese, Vietnamese, Russian, Indian, Pakistani.

Actually I have never met a non white that was against firearms not one out of about 500 people I have worked with. Would it not be better to teach each people that putting on a different stock does not make a firearm super powerful. Even your comment makes it sound like you think a firearm becomes super powerful if it has a military stock. It's a stock nothing more. If I take a Remington 870 and put a AR15 stock on it (Yes they make them) does it all of a sudden become more powerful? YES OR NO

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

I guess you hit it right on the nail yourself "to the public you now have a military rifle" who are the public now in Canada?

GW your a Canadian born man and you perceive the world through that lens, but what about the others voters in Canada, how many came here seeking refuge from War torn countries all over the World. I don't need to mention them and we don't but could go back to the end of the second world war.Vietnam,Iran,Syria,Afghanistan,Iraq, Egypt,Somalia,Lebanon, then add to that countries under the gun of dictators all
over Africa.
These voters memories are of gang's armed with military style weapon's now add to that the victim's families of shootings,domestic violence
the female victim,s of which don't care what type of gun was used it was a gun and women consist of 52% of the vote.

Now the rest of the general public see almost weekly reports of mass shootings right next door in the USA, where assault type weapon's are used,how do you think they are voting,well probably to protect their kids come hell or high water.So basically its a political football.

If I am asked tomorrow to give up my semi auto hunting rifle in order to protect my fellow Canadians I have no problem.

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Much less so than the Liberals who do not hide the fact they would like to band guns 100%, yet you support them. Which is why I always wonder if you are anti gun and anti hunting.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Just pointing out you were betrayed by the very party you voted for.

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"If I take a Remington 870 and put a AR15 stock on it (Yes they make them) does it all of a sudden become more powerful? YES OR NO"

Only you seem to think so as you keep on harping on about it. LOL

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Originally Posted by greatwhite

Much less so than the Liberals who do not hide the fact they would like to band guns 100%, yet you support them. Which is why I always wonder if you are anti gun and anti hunting.

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I guess you will know the answer to that when you come up to the cabin and we can play around with some guns,maybe a little skeet shooting and some bass fishing this summer.This is not your first invitation GW. It will not be the last even although you belong to the DARK SIDE. LOL

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

I don't need to mention them and we don't but could go back to the end of the second world war.Vietnam,Iran,Syria,Afghanistan,Iraq, Egypt,Somalia,Lebanon, then add to that countries under the gun of dictators all
over Africa.
These voters memories are of gang's armed with military style weapon's now add to that the victim's families of shootings,domestic violence
the female victim,s of which don't care what type of gun was used it was a gun and women consist of 52% of the vote.

If I am asked tomorrow to give up my semi auto hunting rifle in order to protect my fellow Canadians I have no problem.

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That's correct Gilroy, those people left dictatorships to come here to a free country. They came here because they feel it's far safer and yes only the bad people had guns where they lived, I'm fully aware, those types are my neighbors. One things for sure in a dictatorship they take away your guns that's why all those people came here to live in a free country,and it's safe because we have guns. Taking away gun rights is one step closer to Dictatorship..