dog won't listen very well outside

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

I,am no dog expert but some behaviour,s in a dog are just in the DNA.In your puppies case you have the German Sheppard which was originally breed to guard over flocks and the collie which was breed to herd farm animals.As such this is the type of dog that wants to range freely and do its assigned jobs.Watch any collie at a off leash dog park and they are busy trying to round up the other dogs.So I think your puppy might be a little bit of a challenge as a puppy but the good news is that a dog that age is like a kid,the brain is maturing and it will grow out of this behavior. The other good think is that both breeds are highly intelligent and can be trained.I would follow all the advice given,train the dog in a place without distractions,use food as a reward.When the time comes and its out of the puppy stage then maybe go to the E collar with the buzzer and reward system or step it up to the e collar and shock.

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The question remains, were the German Sheppard and the Collie parents, "purebred dogs themselves " if not the original traits of these dogs would have been bred out of them who knows how long ago.

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Originally Posted by jaycee

The question remains, were the German Sheppard and the Collie parents, "purebred dogs themselves " if not the original traits of these dogs would have been bred out of them who knows how long ago.

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And further to that, dogs bred as pets for generations often do not strongly show the traits of the original working stock.

There was an interesting study published recently, which I think I posted here, comparing impulsivity in Labs and Border Collies of working and non-working lines. Upshot: Labs from working lines showed the steadiness and patience that working Labs are bred for, but in non-working lines, there was no difference between the breeds.

A couple of things, but to build o points already made.

One of the biggest issues I've seen with dogs outside, when they ignore commands is the distraction factor. A lot of this is remedied by getting the dog outside as much as possible. If the outside world becomes quite familiar to them then much of their distraction is gone. Open the door, let them ramble around every time you go out. Take 10 mins and do a different drill every time. It benefits you both.

The command "Leave it" is crucial. You can train by treats ( reward), or simply praise, which many dogs are happy with as well.

having said that, I also have an e-collar. Have rarely ever had to use the shock feature. Simply tone, long tone, vibrate, and once...shock. Now it's very rare that the dog ever even lets me get to vibrate before coming to heel.

well said ^^^

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Originally Posted by Bluebulldog

One of the biggest issues I've seen with dogs outside, when they ignore commands is the distraction factor. A lot of this is remedied by getting the dog outside as much as possible. If the outside world becomes quite familiar to them then much of their distraction is gone.

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This is why those of us who train for advanced skills (multiple marking, running blinds, quartering, etc) whether for hunting or running hunt tests or field trials learn the basic skills in the yard (in the OP's case in the house) and do the proofing of the skills out in the field. It is also why we try to get our dogs into as many locations as possible so that they will learn to focus on us and become team players and ignore distractions and suction factors found in hunting and test situations.

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Originally Posted by greatwhite

So a few months back we got a new dog a Shollie (German Sheppard and Collie mix). The dog knows it's name and inside the house it listens and plays very well. It will obey commands to sit, come here, lay down etc. But once she is outside off a leash it's another story. She seems to just want to play and ignore your commands, she won't stay at all or listen. What can we do.

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Since you made no mention that this dog will be used for hunting and mainly a family pet basic obedience training will take the both of you a long way. As I mentioned earlier and others as well distractions will prove if consistent training is working. All of my hunting dogs get individual training by going on a road trip to Petsmart on a regular bases. Not necessarily for a treat but to prove my training method is working. After a few months of this all my dogs can be off leash walking into Petsmart, will sit and heel as I walk through the building greeting other dogs and people.
Initially the excitement of pulling into the parking lot at Petsmart would get them overly excited but sticking to the obedience training commands practiced soon paid off. Being in a relaxed frame of mind also helps because body language is easily picked up by the dog. I rarely use a leash during any of my training or a walk around the subdivision but keep one with me just in case. Keep it simple while introducing distractions later on once commands are taught and ingrained.