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    So a few months back we got a new dog a Shollie (German Sheppard and Collie mix). The dog knows it's name and inside the house it listens and plays very well. It will obey commands to sit, come here, lay down etc. But once she is outside off a leash it's another story. She seems to just want to play and ignore your commands, she won't stay at all or listen. What can we do.
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    As long as I can get my hands on the dog , that is what I do. I call the dog to come , the dog ignores, I go after the dog and make my point.

    This is best started when the dog is a puppy. Never call the pup unless you are going to get up and go after it as necessary - few nights in the snow in my socks even.

    Solution #2 - when the property is large or you're out in the fields - is to use an e collar. It is just another tool - a very long leash.

    I have the steps I use in introducing the e collar that I could send to you if you decide to go that route.
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    Shollie thats a good one. Sharon has given good advice. Get your self into obedience classes.

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    Sounds like you never finished your obedience training. Whatever you teach your dog in commands and obedience in the quiet, calm of the house in a one on one scenario needs to be "proofed" with distractions. If the dog will sit when you ask inside, will it do that when outside, when a cat walks by or kids run by?

    As Sharon stated .... Don't ask the dog to anything if you are not going to enforce the command. Unless it is playtime that means outside obedience is on leash or check cord so you can enforce the come / heel command. Once the obedience has proofed inside, outside and with distractions, if needed you could look into an e-collar. These collars are used by trainers in many venues (not just for field work) and if you are unfamiliar with the use and proper collar introduction, find someone who can help you with collar introduction and collar conditioning the dog.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greatwhite View Post
    . She seems to just want to play and ignore your commands, she won't stay at all or listen. What can we do.
    Sounds like most 2 yr old kids....I don't see a problem
    Last edited by MikePal; July 28th, 2016 at 05:52 AM.

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    How old is your new dog? I wouldn't start with the e collar but a long line and obedience. Dogs are situational and don't transfer well so you need to practise obedience outside. So until you get compliance with a long line outside don't ask it to do anything. Once you have compliance then I would reinforce with an e collar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakota Creek View Post
    Sounds like you never finished your obedience training. Whatever you teach your dog in commands and obedience in the quiet, calm of the house in a one on one scenario needs to be "proofed" with distractions.
    This is the crux of it. The house is full of known knowns (to borrow from Donald Rumsfeld) but as soon as you go outside there are all kinds of distractions, especially for a young dog that is burning to explore the world. It's only natural for the dog to ignore you.

    You want to teach the dog to ignore distractions by adding a distraction to your obedience training in a controlled environment. For example, one obedience class trick is to recall the dog past a little pile of treats. You know exactly what the distraction is & how you expect the dog to mess up. You control the position of the distraction. You can make it more distracting as the dog gets better by moving it closer and closer to where the dog has to run. And because you control the situation you can make sure the dog won't be rewarded for doing the wrong thing, which is essential.

    "Leave it" is a good thing to teach ... teaches the dog to ignore a distraction and pay attention to you. Also the good old sit-stay.
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    Sorry I forgot to mention the Dog is about 4 months. I have ordered a Hidden fence to install, but I only hope to use this for a short while. Are last two dog were not as difficult to train.
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    That's a great tip Welsh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greatwhite View Post
    Sorry I forgot to mention the Dog is about 4 months. I have ordered a Hidden fence to install, but I only hope to use this for a short while. Are last two dog were not as difficult to train.
    Still very young and easily distracted , as suggested by others, sign up for obedience training as soon as you can , and keep it up so your pup doesn't develop bad habits that get ingrained into into it's daily routine and are then very hard to break.
    Obedience training is a must, you won't regret it.

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