Why breeding bulldogs is borderline inhumane

I did not defend breeding Bulldogs, so it's not clear why you insist I'm defending the indefensible.

That Bulldogs have health problems is not news. It's been widely publicized for years. Regardless, they remain one of the most popular breeds. The fact is, people buy Bulldogs for their looks. People will continue to do that regardless of whether they have AKC papers. Those looks are the cause of their health problems.

This is not a problem with an easy solution.

Define "Labradoodle". What is the registry that defines consistency of sires,dams,breeds? I think the only consistency you will find is the ridiculous amount of money people would pay for unknown genetic matches. The term designer breed implies they are a breed. They are mutts. Nice looking but still mutts. I know 2 owners and the dogs have both had nasty skin issues, and one of them is as dumb as a bag of hammers. Coincidence? :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by MikePal

Um..yea..pretty sure that is what you wrote.

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Um, no. Nowhere did I write that Bulldogs are bred to "market demands rather than the Breed Standards [sic]."

I wrote that the market for dogs with cute squished faces drives breeders to breed defective dogs. The breed standard for the Bulldog calls for that appearance.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...igner-dog.html

Read what the creator of the Labradoodle thinks of designer dogs.

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Originally Posted by Ugo

Mike, I agree with you that the kennel clubs do not do enough to condemn poor standards. That said, Welsh is also right on the mark. Money makes humans do all manner of horrific things. If the breeders/breed clubs weren't making profits selling these dogs, they would stop without the slightest most subtle insinuation. At the base of this issue is the customer that aspires to have these dogs providing a market for the breeders. So, core issues are hardly with the associations alone.
There is most assuredly one common thread here - mankind's insatiable pursuit of the all mighty dollar. Intentionally breeding dogs with restrictions are but one small aspect of this.

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That is so true, sad to say.

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Originally Posted by terrym

The term designer breed implies they are a breed. They are mutts. Nice looking but still mutts. :rolleyes:

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The Labradoodle is more than 'just' a common mutt;

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You may register your spayed or neutered Australian Labradoodle puppy with the ALAA and/or the ALCA. With your purchase you will receive a 6 generation pedigree. This includes the AKC numbers, ALAA numbers, and ALCA numbers, if applicable to any and all lines. Only Purebred dogs can be registered with the AKC.

Any two purebred dogs, registered with the AKC can have their litter registered with the CKC and therefore a first generation labradoodle can be registered without question. The breed falls into the misc. category until the breed is accepted by the CKC as other than misc. The breed will most likely in my life time not become registered as a purebred with the AKC. An Australian Labradoodle or Labradoodle can compete in the AKC shows in agility and obedience but not conformation.
I believe that more important than the AKC, ALAA or ALCA is the acceptance of the Australian Labradoodle and/or Labradoodle into the OFA and Optigen as a separate catagory, both leading canine health testing agencies. I am proud to of been the lead and at the time president of the IALA/ALAA in this accomplishment.

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Originally Posted by welsh

Um, no. Nowhere did I write that Bulldogs are bred to "market demands rather than the Breed Standards [sic]."

I wrote that the market for dogs with cute squished faces drives breeders to breed defective dogs. The breed standard for the Bulldog calls for that appearance.

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unbelievable that you'd argue your own semantics...