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July 24th, 2018, 11:45 AM
B Wilson

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Originally Posted by Fox

Farmers are not rich, farmers are in massive amounts of debt and work 24/7 365 days a year so survive and many take on a second full time job on top of that.

That is complete nonsense. There are many very wealthy farmers, mostly due them having very good business sense. Poor farmers are poor business managers. I personally know more more people who are millionaires, and multi millionaires that made their money farming, than I do of people who made their wealth via other means.
July 24th, 2018, 12:01 PM
Fox

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Originally Posted by Jerryklimczuk

Well I dont think you have met most hunters, as in any group there are some rotten apples but in general I have found the complete opposite. Most hunters I have dealt with are very respectful of the farms and to the farmers that own them they hunt.

I personally hunt 2 farms, and always help the guys out around the farm when I am up at different times of the year. I share my meat should I be successful and always drop off a gift basket for the family at Christmas time.

I think painting every hunter from the "city" as bad people and ignorant is wrong and completely incorrect.

P.s. I would love to hunt wild boar but most certainly not at the cost of all the damage they do to not only farms but natural habitat as well.

I agree with you 100% on the hunters, the problem though is that 1 bad apple ruins the whole bunch.

Having 99 out of 100 respectful means that one guy uses their ATV to rip around and ruin a newly planted field or leaves trash around and causes that farmer to stop letting farmers in.

I have friends who are respectful of the land but have never offered a minute of time to put in the hay or straw or even stop by with a bottle of wine and a bag of meat after a successful hunt.

This all hurts the 99 that are really good.
July 24th, 2018, 12:04 PM
Fox

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Originally Posted by B Wilson

That is complete nonsense. There are many very wealthy farmers, mostly due them having very good business sense. Poor farmers are poor business managers. I personally know more more people who are millionaires, and multi millionaires that made their money farming, than I do of people who made their wealth via other means.

I have farming in my family and really good business managers and they do not have wealth, they had the farm willed to them and they are getting by but they are no means rich. I have friends that are farmers and although they get by they are not rich, they are average or below average and that only looks at income not the time spent to make that.

I am not talking corporate farms here, I am talking about 100-200 acre farms in both Eastern Ontario and SW Ontario, farms where the guys are not hiring dozens of people to do the hard work.
July 24th, 2018, 12:42 PM
fishermccann

I know of a couple of very wealthy farmers, ( or used to be farmers) one is even in the family. They sold their farms, where Markville Mall and Angus Glen Golf course are now situated. They were doing fine monetarily wise before the sale, now sooo much better. LOL.
July 24th, 2018, 01:39 PM
Fox

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Originally Posted by fishermccann

I know of a couple of very wealthy farmers, ( or used to be farmers) one is even in the family. They sold their farms, where Markville Mall and Angus Glen Golf course are now situated. They were doing fine monetarily wise before the sale, now sooo much better. LOL.

Land and equipment, that is where the money is, that and quota if you are in the dairy industry. Rich on paper does not mean you have extra to blow though. Lots of Cooey 22s in the family, and single shot shotguns from the 20s and 30s, ha ha.
July 24th, 2018, 01:43 PM
B Wilson

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Originally Posted by Fox

I have farming in my family and really good business managers and they do not have wealth, they had the farm willed to them and they are getting by but they are no means rich. I have friends that are farmers and although they get by they are not rich, they are average or below average and that only looks at income not the time spent to make that.

I am not talking corporate farms here, I am talking about 100-200 acre farms in both Eastern Ontario and SW Ontario, farms where the guys are not hiring dozens of people to do the hard work.

Tell me more about the family farm.
How many acres tillable?
Did they invest in tile drainage?
Do they own quota?
How many of each type of animal do they have?
How much of each years profit is reinvested into increase productivity?

And I am not talking about corporate farms either

Ask your SW Ontario farmer friends what their 200 acre farm is worth right now to sell and walk away. And then come back and tell me how their net worth isn't well over a million dollars.
July 24th, 2018, 01:51 PM
fishermccann

As in most cases the value is in the land, when you sell it. So everyone in the GTA with a mortgage free house, is a millionaire? Sure on paper.
July 24th, 2018, 02:56 PM
RHYBAK

So???
How is this Wild Boar conversation going.
Who cares about the wealth of a farmer.
July 24th, 2018, 03:08 PM
gunter

Right on.
It will get better.

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Originally Posted by RHYBAK

So???
How is this Wild Boar conversation going.
Who cares about the wealth of a farmer.
July 24th, 2018, 03:45 PM
js4fn

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Originally Posted by gunter

Right on.
It will get better.

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