6 arrested with semi-auto rifle

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

That's just for starters. Minimum sentencing was struck down by higher courts under pressure from the Liberal bureaucrats inside the justice system. We need to end patronage appointments in the judiciary and demand all prosecutors,justices and judges be elected. We also need to make prison sentences for using a firearm in the commission of drug dealing or any form of organized crime so severe and draconian that gang bangers would sooner carve off their testicles with a dull spoon than serve one day in jail. It works for Asian and South American nations,why not this one?

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Because we have hug-a-thug Liebrals...........

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Originally Posted by MikePal

Wanna solve the gun violence problem..3 yrs MANDATORY prison time for possession of a Restricted gun without a license....no ifs ands or butts.

No more playing "Lets make a Deal' ....

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MikePal, your statements reads: Wanna solve the gun violence problem..3 yrs MANDATORY jail time for possession of a Restricted gun without a license....no ifs ands or butts.


No more playing "Lets make a Deal' ....


Cabela is marking this particular firearm as Non-Restricted in their advertisement, that is what is adding to my confusion. Plus being a centre-fire rifle and coming with a 10 round magazine appear to go contrary to the 5 round magazine limit on centre-fire semi-automatic rifles and shotguns. Because it’s some type of derivative of 9 mm Glock pistol the magazine limit somehow does not some how apply to it, because the limits are placed on the magazine not the firearm. The one exemption I’m aware under the Firearm Act for the 5 round magazine limit for centre-fire semi-auto rifles is the M1 Garand 30-06 which can have 8 rounds in the magazine. That is my puzzlement with this peculiar firearm being marketed having a 10 round magazine, does it also garner an exemption?


You don’t stop hunting because you grown old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut

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Originally Posted by Gun Nut

MikePal, your statements reads: Wanna solve the gun violence problem..3 yrs MANDATORY jail time for possession of a Restricted gun without a license....no ifs ands or butts.


No more playing "Lets make a Deal' ....


Cabela is marking this particular firearm as Non-Restricted in their advertisement, that is what is adding to my confusion. Plus being a centre-fire rifle and coming with a 10 round magazine appear to go contrary to the 5 round magazine limit on centre-fire semi-automatic rifles and shotguns. Because it’s some type of derivative of 9 mm Glock pistol the magazine limit somehow does not some how apply to it, because the limits are placed on the magazine not the firearm. The one exemption I’m aware under the Firearm Act for the 5 round magazine limit for centre-fire semi-auto rifles is the M1 Garand 30-06 which can have 8 rounds in the magazine. That is my puzzlement with this peculiar firearm being marketed having a 10 round magazine, does it also garner an exemption?


You don’t stop hunting because you grown old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut

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This has been explained to you....twice!

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

That's just for starters. Minimum sentencing was struck down by higher courts under pressure from the Liberal bureaucrats inside the justice system. We need to end patronage appointments in the judiciary and demand all prosecutors,justices and judges be elected. We also need to make prison sentences for using a firearm in the commission of drug dealing or any form of organized crime so severe and draconian that gang bangers would sooner carve off their testicles with a dull spoon than serve one day in jail. It works for Asian and South American nations,why not this one?

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We are to soft and sorry saying Canadians lol.
Lots of places in the states have a rule if drugs and gun are together when trafficking, then it a mandatory minimum sentence of 5 years. Stiffer sentences would deteriorate some but others just dont give 2 fks.



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Originally Posted by rick_iles

Not necessarily ! It would depend on the circumstances. It’s not uncommon for one or more people to be charged and convicted of possession of something....

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True.

There can be multiple counts of possession. However charging everyone simply creates confusion and reasonable doubt, unless someone chooses to inform on their friends / family.

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Originally Posted by Gun Nut

Cabela is marking this particular firearm as Non-Restricted in their advertisement, that is what is adding to my confusion. Plus being a centre-fire rifle and coming with a 10 round magazine appear to go contrary to the 5 round magazine limit on centre-fire semi-automatic rifles and shotguns. Because it’s some type of derivative of 9 mm Glock pistol the magazine limit somehow does not some how apply to it, because the limits are placed on the magazine not the firearm. The one exemption I’m aware under the Firearm Act for the 5 round magazine limit for centre-fire semi-auto rifles is the M1 Garand 30-06 which can have 8 rounds in the magazine. That is my puzzlement with this peculiar firearm being marketed having a 10 round magazine, does it also garner an exemption?

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That is because the gun is non-restricted.

There is no exemption here, this is a pistol magazine, pistol magazines are restricted to 10rds, not 5rds like semi auto centerfire rifles.

Can you please read up on the actual laws as has been pointed out to you numerous times here.

The number of times I was told that you cannot have more than a 5rd mag is amazing for people with a PAL in this country.

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Originally Posted by Fox

That is because the gun is non-restricted.

There is no exemption here, this is a pistol magazine, pistol magazines are restricted to 10rds, not 5rds like semi auto centerfire rifles.

Can you please read up on the actual laws as has been pointed out to you numerous times here.

The number of times I was told that you cannot have more than a 5rd mag is amazing for people with a PAL in this country.

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That's not really surprising,Fox. There's people who still think they need a bank vault to secure firearms among a lot of other old wive's tales that are flat-out bullshyte,too. Do you ever browse the gun nuts site? There's enough foolishness espoused on there that just makes one wonder how some gun owners can walk and chew gum at the same time.:rolleye:

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Originally Posted by Fox

I hope you mean semi autos only, a 10rd mag limit would make a number of rifles prohibited without heavy modifications.

The Liberals will never make the magazine capacity larger, never going to happen.

The reason for the rules are with respect to standard magazine capacities. Rifles used for hunting almost always max out at 5rds, extended magazines are not something normally found in the field so this is why that number was used. 10rd capacity in pistols would not interfere with competition and worked around the most standard capacity for both semi auto and revolvers. The largest 22LR revolver capacity that I know of is 10rds, so not plugging on a revolver would be necessary as every revolver would be 20rds or less.

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Yea I mean semi auto. This wouldn’t apply to tube mags either since the reload time on those makes them not very “useful for evil purposes”

There are a number of bolt action rifles out there that take mags that work in semi-auto rifles.

My main point is that we’ve had the “loophole” without any issues for so long that the law itself has been proven to be stupid.


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Originally Posted by rick_iles

Not necessarily ! It would depend on the circumstances. It’s not uncommon for one or more people to be charged and convicted of possession of something....

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Possession means knowledge and access/control. If you know some has an illegal gun but don’t have access then you aren’t in possession. If someone has an illegal gun in their backpack or your car without your knowledge then technically you don’t possess it. That last example is the one that’s hardest to defend in court though. Hopefully your “friend” takes the rap and goes on record that you didn’t know about the gun.

In this case it’s a standard strategy of charging everyone and letting the court figure it out/see who pleas out.


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Originally Posted by Rob Stewart

Yea I mean semi auto. This wouldn’t apply to tube mags either since the reload time on those makes them not very “useful for evil purposes”

There are a number of bolt action rifles out there that take mags that work in semi-auto rifles.

My main point is that we’ve had the “loophole” without any issues for so long that the law itself has been proven to be stupid.


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I don't think there is really anything wrong here, how often are any of these used for crimes and if they are going to commit a crime then why would a mag restriction stop them? You can get mags in the states and bring them here if you really wanted to have high capacity.

Don't change fixed magazine capacities and go with 10rds would be fine with me but they will never expand it, if anything they will restrict it more with the current government.