I actually have the 2015 table of second bear seals. Not sure if I can attach a pdf here tho
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I actually have the 2015 table of second bear seals. Not sure if I can attach a pdf here tho
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Try this.
Sktr, I'll concede if you buy.
I do agree that most people who get extra tags don't use them and if they did it probably wouldn't make much difference in the overall harvest for that year. It wouldn't hurt the population one bit.
If you go back to the time when additional licences for bears were eliminated completely a big part of the reason given was that the government wanted to project the image of black bear as being a respectable game animal. So money wasn't the issue back then. It is now but the sale of a few more tags sure won't bail them out of the financial hole they're in now.
If bears were as prolific as deer then I'd be for more tags but around here at least the population is at best, stable. Its easy to manage a stable population but just as easy to upset it. I'm for leaving well enough alone.
BIG THANK YOU - Now just need to find out from MNR how many they actually sold and also how many were actually placed on a bear as a secondary tag. If the hunter only used this extra tag and not his first then WTF??? it's a wash!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dude Bro
Total Game Seals:Northwest Region – 181; Northeast Region – 198; Southern Region – 30. Ontario
total - 409
Wildlife Management Units Offering Resident Black Bear Second Game Seals WMU Number of Second Game Seals Available District Region 1C 10 Sioux Lookout Northwest 2 6 Red Lake Northwest 6 5 Kenora Northwest 7A 3 Kenora Northwest 7B 5 Kenora Northwest 11B 12 Thunder Bay Northwest 13 37 Thunder Bay Northwest 14 5 Nipigon Northwest 15B 10 Thunder Bay Northwest 16A 10 Sioux Lookout Northwest 16B 10 Sioux Lookout Northwest 16C 10 Thunder Bay Northwest 17 10 Nipigon Northwest 18A 10 Nipigon Northwest 18B 10 Nipigon Northwest 19 5 Nipigon Northwest 21A 10 Nipigon Northwest 24 50 Hearst Northeast 26 75 Cochrane Northeast 27 20 Cochrane Northeast 37 13 Sault Ste. Marie Northeast 38 25 Sudbury Northeast 43B 15 Sudbury Northeast 47 30 Parry Sound Southern
We're allowed two tags in N. B.,I buy the extra tag but hardly ever use it. I only hunt when the meat is getting low. I know most of the locals only shoot 1 bear.
I know in N. B. They Only want 3,500 Bears shot/ year,but will sell up to 5,000 tags. In the fall, you can buy a second tag until they reach their cut off point. 85% on the Bears are killed by non residence and I believe Ontario is similar.
You don't have to worry about the non-residents shooting all the bears, some area outfitters have been told by the MNR how many hunters they can book for the bear hunt, according to the MNR bear population is down.
Its funny you mentioned that. It was about 10 or 15 years ago when MNR was considering putting quotas on outfitters in Sudbury and Chapleau districts. That shows a concern about bear populations that far back on only lends to my argument about additional tags.
I had similar thoughts. Sudbury has WMUs 38, 39, 41 and 42 with the borders either intersecting within city limits or or very close to the city. We had an extraordinary year in 2015 for nuisance bears. NO extra tags there? Doesn't make sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by blasted_saber
43 b is Manitoulin Island, where bears have been historically non-existent. Now they get 15 surplus tags?
im not sure off hand what WMUs surround Timmins, north bay and the sault, but I don't see many surplus tags around there either.
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Originally Posted by gowbushkon
I think the MNRF bear biologists have been dipping into Justin Trudeau's glaucoma medication...
Just announced on tonights 6:00PM news that there will be a quota on bears for outfitters.
The outfitter who was interviewed says he was just now advised of this change and suspects there are many outfitters that yet have no idea about this. Most of these guys would have filled their bookings by now.
This is absurd public relations. MNR has their heads so far up their butts and deserve to be soundly criticized.