Two words that will kill any religion....Prove It!
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Two words that will kill any religion....Prove It!
OR Liberal !Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
And really who gives a .
Three words that will do the same..The Bible Story.
That was your really silly comment... but you also seem to dismiss the real impact for good, most don't like looking at both sides of a question so I will leave it there.Quote:
Originally Posted by delmer
For most religions that is very true, but for Christianity let's see, it took Lee Strobel and Josh McDowell about 2 years of looking and investigating before they were convinced. C.S. Lewis spent years in discussions with Tolkein. Nabeel Quereshi says his discussions with a Christian that actually had some answers went on for four years. How long would you spend?Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
"That which I greatly feared had at last come upon me. In the Trinity Term of 1929 I gave in, and admitted that God was God, and knelt and prayed: perhaps, that night, the most dejected and reluctant convert in all England. I did not then see what is now the most shining and obvious thing; the Divine humility which will accept a convert even on such terms. The Prodigal Son at least walked home on his own feet. But who can duly adore that Love which will open the high gates to prodigal who is brought in kicking, struggling, resentful, and darting his eyes in every direction for a chance of escape?" C.S Lewis
It isn't that the proof isn't there, it is that so many won't look, don't want to or have made up your mind and set the criteria impossibly. The atheist can think that protein, protein synthesis, cell membranes, DNA synthesis and RNA can all come together by chance and the universe popped out of nothing. Between the biology, history and the texts themselves it is alot easier to believe than goo to you by way of the zoo route. I mean if a Oxford prof. (C.S. Lewis), Phd in molecular biophysics (Alister McGrath), and even Christopher Hitchen's brother can be convinced by looking, the question isn't the evidence, it is the one looking. Heck it was a book on archaeolgy that got me taking Christianity much more seriously so ..... ah never mind, you made up your mind and don't want to know it seems.
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Originally Posted by rick_iles
Well that is a given that what so many Liberal's believe is fiction. History, science etc. don't matter to them and their ideology. Truth should change the way a person reacts, their goals, their thoughts and so many don't want to have anything to do with it because of that and their pride or their "me" attitude!
We started with Israel..... reminds me I should see about getting some wine/brandy and the Sabra chocolate/orange liquor... anyone want to talk about the fact that many of the middle eastern leaders almost seemed to shrug BUT the terrorists, Turkey and the lefties are the ones going nuts????
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Originally Posted by jaycee
Not so much when the whole nature of the problem is the basis of one religions beliefs and their relationship to another religion.
We see that even here in Canadian in an interview on television a few years back.
Mohamed Elmasry - Canadian Islamic Congress - October 19, 2004
Michel Coren: So everyone in Israel and anyone and everyone in Israel, irrespective of gender, over the age of 18 is a valid target?
and right from the Hadith, one of the key books of Islam.
Sahih Muslim, Book 041, Number 6981:
Ibn 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger [Muhammad](may peace be upon him) as saying: You will fight against the Jews and you will kill them until even a stone would say: Come here, Muslim, there is a Jew (hiding himself behind me); kill him.
Whoa Boy! this thread has really strayed off from the original that was ;Trump officially recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital,:confused:
Christianity; The popular belief that a celestial Jewish baby who is also his own father, born from a virgin mother, died for three days so that he could ascend to heaven on a cloud and then make you live forever, only if you symbolically eat his flesh, drink his blood and telepathically tell him you accept him as your lord and master, so he can remove an evil force from your spiritual being that is present in all humanity, because an immoral woman made from a man's rib was hood winked by a talking reptile possessed by a malicious angle to secretly eat a forbidden fruit from a magical tree...... Sounds perfectly plausible.
If you are a true believer, then enjoy your time in heaven with Jeffery Dahmer, as he repented in jail ,according to the rules he gets to go to heaven, and many of his victims do not.
Boy have you got some weird ideas, but I know better than to try and teach a Liberal anything..... hope you learn more than the twisted material you talk about someday.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
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Originally Posted by fishermccann
NO ONE deserves to be saved God doesn't give forgiveness to those that don't ask and mean it..... so IF he honestly repented and believed.... sure why not, after all no one deserves to be there. But I would sooner get to meet Corrie Ten Boom, Saul of Tarsus aka Paul (another hater converted), C.S. Lewis etc. There will be lots of interesting people that will receive the forgiveness and mercy, I just feel sorry for those whose pride is in the way. Ah... I've wasted enough time with your foolishness, hope you decide to learn someday Bye.
Is anything I said not in the book?