Port Hope COVID discrimination

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Originally Posted by impact

Nah! The "woke" designation is entirely you. You know, "If it quacks like a duck......"
You being an advocate of gun control and bad laws puts you square into that camp.

There are 15 former and current LEO's taking these orders to court.
That pretty well sums up how bad the law imposed on us really is.
Other court actions are pending as well.

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Whether the law is good or bad isn't up to an assortment of failed and former coppers. It's up to the judges to decide.

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Originally Posted by 410001661

That is my mantra. Turkey hunting, fishing, and general GTF out of the house to do things - lots of small jobs that I need to finish up.

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You betcha'..... I haven't been for crowds or been in bars for a few years after quitting drinking, so there wasn't much of a disruption on how I do things these days to how they were before.....fishing, hunting and family time are about the only things keeping me sane this last year and a half.....:)

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Originally Posted by Badenoch

Whether the law is good or bad isn't up to an assortment of failed and former coppers. It's up to the judges to decide.

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I'm following my charter rights and they are violating their oath. See ya on judgement day, it's a comin.

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Originally Posted by Badenoch

Whether the law is good or bad isn't up to an assortment of failed and former coppers. It's up to the judges to decide.

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What makes you think the coppers are "failed?"

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

What makes you think the coppers are "failed?"

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Police officers are hired to enforce laws enacted by duly-elected democratic governments. As a result they do not get to interpret those laws or the Charter to suit their own political or philosophical beliefs. Additionally, the Ontario Police Services Act restricts the politician activity then can engage in.

Retired officers can do as they want. If this coalition does include serving police officers who have identified themselves publicly the clock is ticking on their careers.

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Originally Posted by Badenoch

Police officers are hired to enforce laws enacted by duly-elected democratic governments. As a result they do not get to interpret those laws or the Charter to suit their own political or philosophical beliefs. Additionally, the Ontario Police Services Act restricts the politician activity then can engage in.

Retired officers can do as they want. If this coalition does include serving police officers who have identified themselves publicly the clock is ticking on their careers.

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Well here attached is the 25 page court document.
You can use your superior legal knowledge and digest it sideways for awhile.
Maybe it will "WOKE" you up?

https://www.constitutionalrightscent...yobo-B_qT0hsX8

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Originally Posted by impact

Well here attached is the 25 page court document.
You can use your superior legal knowledge and digest it sideways for awhile.
Maybe it will "WOKE" you up?

https://www.constitutionalrightscent...yobo-B_qT0hsX8

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There are 9 John/Jane Does either made up or too gutless to use their own names.

The ones who did I suspect have their pensions locked in because it is only a matter of time until they will be asked to turn in their retirement paperwork.

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Originally Posted by Badenoch

Sure you can discriminate between people who live in a region and people who do not. That's a fundamental component of a stay at home order.

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OK, so no one is allowed outside of Port Hope ... maybe we should put up embargoes ... let's see how well Port Hope does without external support. What are you Trump or something? This is ONE PROVINCE ... towns want to get smart and discriminate, they will see their butts in no time flat!

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Originally Posted by Badenoch

The Charter of Rights and Freedoms doesn't trump anything until the legislation is successfully challenged in courts. Until which time that happens the law remains in place. People can either obey it or accept the potential consequences for doing otherwise.

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Sorry, what law was broken?? You seem to think a law was broken by fishing in the Ganny. That is one BIG assumption.
The order allows for "exercise", it also does not prohibit being outside, it also does not prohibit travel.

Are you ASSUMING that fishing is not considered essential? OK then, if it is not considered essential, then WHY are the police in Port Hope allowing residents of Port Hope to fish? It either is essential or isn't to all.

This double standard does not have any place in the law ... it is wrong, and I hope the Town gets nailed for it.

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Originally Posted by JBen

I don’t have a problem with municipalities deciding to Jack parking fees ( Barrie), close boat launches ( too many to name), fine out of region people. Whether that’s Port Hope, or Ajax.

As a country, we want our borders closed. Most or all provinces have closed borders. Why should or shouldn’t municipalities?

The EMA, gives the province sweeping powers. And if I’m not mistaken, Municipalities too. One of which is to limit/restrict movement.

Do I agree with it?
Doesn’t really matter. I can certainly understand why municipalities that get flooded, might close their boat launches/Jack parking fees, fine people that aren’t local.

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I have one issue with it. IS fishing essential or not essential?
If it is not essential, then NO BODY should be able to fish Ganny, not even residents. How can it be okay for residents
to do a non-essential activity under the order? If so, I just broaden my definition of resident to all of Ontario, especially
given fishing and the waters is all managed at the provincial level.