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May 18th, 2021, 09:10 AM
#21
Has too much time on their hands
Protesting is protected Charter Section 2 activity. The Provincial Order does not supersede our Federally Protected rights. Since the Federal EMA is NOT enacted, then protesting is legal at the provincial levels. IF and when the Feds enact the EMA, then Section 1 of the Fed EMA can allow the Feds to override Section 2, at that point you can charge protestors, NOT under a Provincial order as is occurring now. All those charges will be thrown out if you were exercising in the Sec 2, of the Act exercising the 4 articles listed. You must record and have a record of your activity at the time of ticket. Record the police.
This is what is so wrong with our Charter - a right is not subject to law.
People you really need to know your rights...
Section 2
Under the heading of "Fundamental Freedoms" the section states:
2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms:
(a) freedom of conscience and religion;
(b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication;
(c) freedom of peaceful assembly; and
(d) freedom of association

Originally Posted by
fratri
Stay at home......... unless you are out protesting with a few thousand people in Toronto..... Makes no sense.
Mark Snow, Leader Of The, Ontario Libertarian Party
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May 18th, 2021 09:10 AM
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May 18th, 2021, 09:18 AM
#22
Their mayor is a POS, he's been anti-fishing on the Ganny since he came to power, he says one thing but his actions have always been the opposite, just ask the local fisherman who live in town. It's been a common theme long before covid came along.
So the fellas here who plug their ears and scoff at evidence that shows covid is a crime, you know because its suggested from your fellow researched citizen. Somehow now expect others to follow their suggestions, well I got two words for ya's..
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May 18th, 2021, 11:14 AM
#23

Originally Posted by
Badenoch
What part of "it's a stupid, undefined law ... that allows you to still go see your boat for 1h at a time at a marina, still allows you to go to your cottage, still allows exercising, still allows you to go to a Walmart 50 km to get Avocados that are fresher there, still allows you to go to play grounds, still allows you to bike or run to the next suburb or even city, etc, etc."
In any case, why is it OK for people from all over to come to Bronte ... but it's not okay in Port Hope. I specifically asked a cop sitting in a cruiser across the street from Bronte, during last year's stay at home order, whether it is okay to fish the river. They contacted the marine unit, and they stated they are not going to be stopping people from fishing, the river is open.
So, basically ... I'll tell you what this is ... it is some person's (cops) interpretation of what is essential and not essential ... and if you've never fished in your life, guess what, you don't have a care for it, so it is non-essential. Plus, let's admit it ... Port Hope hates fishermen from outside of Port Hope ...
If you're going to read any of this, read this ... WHY IS IT OK FOR A PERSON IN PORT HOPE TO FISH GANNY THEN??? Either all fishing is essential or non-essential .... you cannot discriminate.
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May 18th, 2021, 11:18 AM
#24

Originally Posted by
onelessarrow
Their mayor is a POS, he's been anti-fishing on the Ganny since he came to power, he says one thing but his actions have always been the opposite, just ask the local fisherman who live in town. It's been a common theme long before covid came along.
So the fellas here who plug their ears and scoff at evidence that shows covid is a crime, you know because its suggested from your fellow researched citizen. Somehow now expect others to follow their suggestions, well I got two words for ya's..
And see, HERE the truth comes out. PORT HOPE hates out of town fishermen! This has nothing to do with COVID. NOTHING.
The order is an excuse, with some fairly liberal interpretations ...
If fishing is non-essential, then it should be non-essential for Port Hope residents as well! PERIOD. The law has to be black and white.
PORT HOPE should/must get clarification from the Province to name fishing as non-essential then! Otherwise this is blatant discrimination.
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May 18th, 2021, 05:24 PM
#25

Originally Posted by
MarkB
What part of "it's a stupid, undefined law ... that allows you to still go see your boat for 1h at a time at a marina, still allows you to go to your cottage, still allows exercising, still allows you to go to a Walmart 50 km to get Avocados that are fresher there, still allows you to go to play grounds, still allows you to bike or run to the next suburb or even city, etc, etc."
In any case, why is it OK for people from all over to come to Bronte ... but it's not okay in Port Hope. I specifically asked a cop sitting in a cruiser across the street from Bronte, during last year's stay at home order, whether it is okay to fish the river. They contacted the marine unit, and they stated they are not going to be stopping people from fishing, the river is open.
So, basically ... I'll tell you what this is ... it is some person's (cops) interpretation of what is essential and not essential ... and if you've never fished in your life, guess what, you don't have a care for it, so it is non-essential. Plus, let's admit it ... Port Hope hates fishermen from outside of Port Hope ...
If you're going to read any of this, read this ... WHY IS IT OK FOR A PERSON IN PORT HOPE TO FISH GANNY THEN??? Either all fishing is essential or non-essential .... you cannot discriminate.
Sure you can discriminate between people who live in a region and people who do not. That's a fundamental component of a stay at home order.
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May 18th, 2021, 05:40 PM
#26

Originally Posted by
Badenoch
Sure you can discriminate between people who live in a region and people who do not. That's a fundamental component of a stay at home order.
Working overtime tonight Agent Badenoch?
Fundamental Charter of Rights and Freedom "TRUMPS" your attempt at imposing unlawful orders.
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May 18th, 2021, 06:34 PM
#27

Originally Posted by
impact
Working overtime tonight Agent Badenoch?
Fundamental Charter of Rights and Freedom "TRUMPS" your attempt at imposing unlawful orders.
The Charter of Rights and Freedoms doesn't trump anything until the legislation is successfully challenged in courts. Until which time that happens the law remains in place. People can either obey it or accept the potential consequences for doing otherwise.
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May 18th, 2021, 06:59 PM
#28

Originally Posted by
Badenoch
The Charter of Rights and Freedoms doesn't trump anything until the legislation is successfully challenged in courts. Until which time that happens the law remains in place. People can either obey it or accept the potential consequences for doing otherwise.
Bad laws are to be challenged and ignored. Until then your welcome to police somewhere else.
You know, innocent until proven guilty. Does that not ring a bell in your mind?
Globalists think nothing of imposing laws onto unsuspecting citizens until acceptance is achieved.
Not this time Badenoch. We are now awake.
Now go back and report to your leader.
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May 18th, 2021, 07:01 PM
#29
Are you allowed to leave your home area for work or is it just the outdoor activities that contain covid.
"Everything is easy when you know how"
"Meat is not grown in stores"
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May 18th, 2021, 07:42 PM
#30
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
fratri
Are you allowed to leave your home area for work or is it just the outdoor activities that contain covid.
If you must physically report to your essential job and cannot work from home, then yes.
We ran into this at work recently with some of upper management coming from the GTA and some inquiries were made.
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