Cormorants

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

With gratitude to President Theodore Roosevelt who introduced game management tools into law and ended "market" hunting,forever,we fast forward to today where "culls" appear to be necessary in some instances to restore the natural balance. Cormorants appear to be at the top of the list in Ontario.

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And add the guys who bought, then organized/regulated, Long Point duck hunting....and helped create the North American waterfowl conservation act....and the LPWMU...but I could be wrong.

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Originally Posted by zoli 16ga.

looks like gun nuts has all the answers. Boy he's smart, and I'm assuming he's a he. Far be it for me to ask why he polutes the world even more to just go out and shoot things becuase he is a gun nut. hypocrite anyone.....

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Actually I don’t take game unless it can be legally shot and I think it is likely to serve my table or it’s doing unnecessary damage to my property, or posing a threat to my safety. I’ve have never found that Cormorants fall in anyone of those categories so they are not something I would go out of my way to waste my powder on. If I’m that desperate for something to target, I have a trap and plenty of clay pigeons. I have property in an area where bear are present so I rarely go afield without a gun, I have no interest in shooting bear, but if bear takes more than a passing interest in me I will attempt to stop it. There are many forms of escapism in this world, I found mine many years ago. It’s to go afield with a firearm in hand and be surround by the beauty and wonders of natural world. If that makes me a hypocrite so be it.

You don’t stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut

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Originally Posted by Gun Nut

Actually I don’t take game unless it can be legally shot and I think it is likely to serve my table or it’s doing unnecessary damage to my property, or posing a threat to my safety. I’ve have never found that Cormorants fall in anyone of those categories so they are not something I would go out of my way to waste my powder on. If I’m that desperate for something to target, I have a trap and plenty of clay pigeons. I have property in an area where bear are present so I rarely go afield without a gun, I have no interest in shooting bear, but if bear takes more than a passing interest in me I will attempt to stop it. There are many forms of escapism in this world, I found mine many years ago. It’s to go afield with a firearm in hand and be surround by the beauty and wonders of natural world. If that makes me a hypocrite so be it.

You don’t stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut

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You did just prove my point, so thank you. Have a great day.

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Originally Posted by zoli 16ga.

looks like gun nuts has all the answers. Boy he's smart, and I'm assuming he's a he. Far be it for me to ask why he polutes the world even more to just go out and shoot things becuase he is a gun nut. hypocrite anyone.....

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He seems pretty smart to me. Not sure what your issue is though

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Originally Posted by zoli 16ga.
looks like gun nuts has all the answers. Boy he's smart, and I'm assuming he's a he. Far be it for me to ask why he polutes the world even more to just go out and shoot things becuase he is a gun nut. hypocrite anyone.....

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He sounds ok to me as well and he seems to get his point across without resorting to degrading others.....unless I've missed something in his/her posts.

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Originally Posted by Gun Nut

Actually at one point we did have a method of culling the human specie, it was call war. The Napoleonic Wars, World .War I, followed by World .War II. Then we discovered nuclear weaponry and decided a war fought in that type of theater could spell the end of our specie, as well as a goodly number of others. Back then we didn’t use terms like varmints, they were just referred to as enemies. After population numbers leveled off, peace treaties were signed , after which population numbers would again increase towards a later time of conflict. When nuclear weaponry came along it upset the pattern, there were still culls but they were more or less localized conflicts, nothing of mayor proportion . These, of course, have spawn ensuing refugee crises, while the rise in population numbers have lead to the current migration trends. Overtime as human spread across geographical area, they displace wild habitat and wildlife. Talk about crisis, a few years back there was always a paragraph in the Ontario Hunting Regulations that use to list endangered species. Now the list it seems has grown so long it would fill a booklet as thick as the Regulations. I can’t imagine why. Let’s blame the Cormorants they are as good a target as any. Maybe they should be added to the list of unprotected song birds along with the American crow, red-wing blackbird, cowbird, sparrow and starling,


You don’t stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut

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This for a start. perhaps he does not understand the word cull...

cull

noun
1. a selective slaughter of wild animals.

Then he lovingly becomes an invasive species and walks into admittedly bear country and carries a gun to possibly kill a bear that wishes to eradicate him from their habitat....?
You can't be a hunter, or as he explains, be a human as part of the over population as he discribes is ruining the world, and be good with it.....
I'm sure he does not drive a zero emissions car, has a zero carbon footprint, shoots only nontoxic shot, and only kills an animal as a last resort, or give up his land and give it back to nature. I'm sure he'd kill a rat, mouse, carpenter ants etc, that has infected his premises. Perhaps he would aslo not resist people from another country trying to impose their rule on him? Stating or preaching the obviouse also does not make him wise by any standard.
As long as he admits he's a hypocrite, he's good with me.

Wow.....

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Originally Posted by redd foxx

He sounds ok to me as well and he seems to get his point across without resorting to degrading others.....unless I've missed something in his/her posts.

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That was my thought as well. Some people can’t seem to participate like an adult.

Just this so-called definition alone makes me wonder. Any cull done properly can hardly be called a slaughter. Most are carried out within the boundaries associated with a legitimate and legal hunt.

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Originally Posted by Snowwalker

What do you do with : ????
Gophers
Groundhogs ( if you had any)
Crows
Starlings
English Sparrows
Magpies
Jackdaw

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I don't kill animals I don't eat.
Simple.