Covid 2nd Wave....fact or fiction

'Libertarianism fails for me, not because I don't value freedom, but because it exalts ideology over practicality, just as its communist and anarchist cousins do'. K.Brennan.

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Originally Posted by fishermccann

Sanctioned by definition is not the work you are looking for, permitted would be better. If done properly, within reason, it does not have to affect others adversely.

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Do you know how many innocent people die from DUI every year? And there's beer store and liquor stores in every town city and village to purchase as much as you want. Do you have any frigging clue how many families alcohol destroys?
And your argument about effecting others does not apply to what you want. Sounds like a communist thought process you live by

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Originally Posted by fishermccann

Sanctioned, maybe , permitted would be better. If done properly, within reason, it does not have to affect others adversely.

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Wow..are you even aware of how many people die a year due to the collateral damage done by Government sold Alcohol ???

Can't believe you even posted that...

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From a public health and safety perspective, this makes absolutely no sense. In 2018, using a Health Canada-funded study, we estimated each year some 15,000 deaths, 90,000 hospital admissions and 240,000 years of life lost are directly attributable to alcohol use.

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Originally Posted by line052

You will never convince Fishercam or Badenoch of this simple reality. No instead they want to punish and control your life. These/Those people are the real threat to Canada. It is these types of socialist/communists who are driving the issue, control, subservience and do not question anything.

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And you and MP will never convince us that herd immunity is the answer.I prefer my answers from qualified scientists not from you guys.We already had a few members on here who had the same attitude about Covid,they are no longer here as they are dead,I wonder what they died of?

I know of many people who drink responsibly and have hurt no one. That's why the warnings on the label. If you can't follow the directions, don't imbibe. You ignored properly, within reason. Your argument is silly, I drive properly , no harm, if done improperly it becomes a danger to you and others, kills more than booze. Ban driving?

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Originally Posted by Badenoch

Society has long had the ability to impose sanctions on miscreants who deliberately flout public safety laws or engage in behavior that presents a possible threat to other individuals. Examples would be a person who drives an unsafe vehicle on public highways or a hunter who points his firearm at another person while in the field or a self-centered little turd who conjures up an imaginary medical condition to justify not wearing a mask in a public place during a pandemic.

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Yeh we just had another example of a "dough heid" here in Peel who decided she should rent out a storage locker and have a party for 100 unmasked quests, just rewarded with a $750.00 fine. It should have been $75,000 considering what she could have cost the health system.

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Originally Posted by Badenoch

The sale of each item you mentioned is tightly controlled along with who and where they can be consumed. It is a compromise between some measure of government control or society facing an entirely unregulated illegal market.

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The sales of 90 percent of drugs are illegal and prohibited from our government just like the hand guns that cross out boarders.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

And you and MP will never convince us that herd immunity is the answer.I prefer my answers from qualified scientists not from you guys.We already had a few members on here who had the same attitude about Covid,they are no longer here as they are dead,I wonder what they died of?

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Do you know how people dealt with the Spanish flu? They took off their masks and learned to live with it. It never went away its still with us and we don't wear masks for it.

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Originally Posted by fishermccann

I know of many people who drink responsibly and have hurt no one. That's why the warnings on the label. If you can't follow the directions, don't imbibe. You ignored properly, within reason. Your argument is silly, I drive properly , no harm, if done improperly it becomes a danger to you and others, kills more than booze. Ban driving?

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I know people who have drank unresponsible and have killed people, innocent people, your contradicting yourself and your argument about effecting others. Lots of people don't wear masks and it doesn't effect others because they respect distance, same thing as alcohol

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

And you and MP will never convince us that herd immunity is the answer.I prefer my answers from qualified scientists not from you guys.We already had a few members on here who had the same attitude about Covid,they are no longer here as they are dead,I wonder what they died of?

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So without any immunity in the community how will a vaccine work for the community when only a small portion has a vaccine. ?

It won't it will still spread to all the people who do not get a vaccine. As it stands in the USA only 3 % of America has been tested positive. When 100 million vaccine are available next year year it will still leave a large population of covid spreaders.

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