Moderna ingredient list

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Originally Posted by JBen

Statistics?
Want to dispute them? That’s your right, bear in mind, anything presented can just as easily be discounted....


Or what you can see with your own eyes? Do you see countless people ending up in hospitals with complications? Hundreds of LTC residents ( most or all of whom have received a shot) dropping like flies? The army being called in to help because people are getting vaccinated ( 45% of the population now)

i know people that have gotten very ill from Covid, a couple long Covids, including a heathy 30 something. I know dozens that have been vaxxed, including PSWs, nurses, that are family and friends. A couple doctors too that are personal friends. Don’t know 1 person, that’s had anything more than a sore arm, and nothing that a Tylenol didn’t cure

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Sure Florida and Texas are wide open no masks. Having indoor sporting events with thousands in attendance, no masks. They are or were less than 50% vaccinated and yet people are not dying in droves.
Texas just recorded a covid death free day, how can it be possible?
I have friends down in Florida who are living the free life, people are not locked down, they are living mask free and loving it.

Any kind of statistics coming from our government is nothing more than fear mongering propaganda from the most corrupt and untrustworthy government this country has ever known.

No other therapeutic treatments being used for covid except vaccines and ventilators. Many hospitals have empty wings with no patients, but MSM telling us hospitals overcrowded...Laughable at best is Canada with covid

Any stats you throw out is nothing but fear mongering from an evil cabal of anti vaxers that want to depopulate the globe.

See how that works?

The statement you challenged wasn’t about one approach being more effective or better than another. Your “rebuttal”

But was “the risk from Covid to individuals, ( depending on age) far outweigh the risk from vaccines. See also my other post about the risk of cancer via carcinogens in smoked meat.

Do you see the army in LTCs?
do you see thousands being killed by vaccines? And even in young healthy people where Covid is a really, really small risk. The risk of long Covid, and permanent heart/lung damage. Which would/could mean an early grave later in life...

Would help if you didn’t change the channel

Be that as it may,
Texas. Per capita
165 per 100k

Ontario
Under 50? (Despite having fully dosed far fewer)

the numbers in the US, UK, Israel are plummeting. Thanks most likely to vaccines. Unless the evil cabal on your side have found away to bury the tens or hundreds of thousands dead and seriously ill from vaccines without anyone knowing...

I think I’ll stand by my statement.

COVID deaths in Texas: 51,081 (All of Canada = 25,050)
COVID deaths in Florida: 36,271
Total: 87,352
That is more than the death toll of Canadian soldiers in WW1 or WW2 (not combined).
That would be the entire population of the city I live closest to... much too high a price to pay.

Israel COVID deaths: 6,395. We all know how they are handling the pandemic. Bars open, shops open, back to business.

Information sourced here:https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/region/canada

From this University:https://www.jhu.edu/about/history/

It's not how many died, it's how many they let die.
They need to show the research required to legally determine vaccines were the lifesaver over therapeutics.
The evidence has been clearly the opposite.
It requires an independent investigation not on stats but intent, starting with the Wuhan lab.
This video makes reference to an ingredient in the moderna vax.

https://rumble.com/vhcp3d-ted-nugent...tch-fever.html

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Originally Posted by Moosehead

COVID deaths in Texas: 51,081 (All of Canada = 25,050)
COVID deaths in Florida: 36,271
Total: 87,352
That is more than the death toll of Canadian soldiers in WW1 or WW2 (not combined).
That would be the entire population of the city I live closest to... much too high a price to pay.

Israel COVID deaths: 6,395. We all know how they are handling the pandemic. Bars open, shops open, back to business.

Information sourced here:https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/region/canada

From this University:https://www.jhu.edu/about/history/

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Just curious how many people die of medical malpractice in a year?

Don't worry Great White I was stocking up on tin foil when you were stocking upon toilet paper, I switched from water to beer after visiting Mexico a long time ago. The problem with infecting the drinking water is it's traceable to the source just in case you give a Schlitz. Cheers

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Originally Posted by onelessarrow

It's not how many died, it's how many they let die.
They need to show the research required to legally determine vaccines were the lifesaver over therapeutics.
The evidence has been clearly the opposite.
It requires an independent investigation not on stats but intent, starting with the Wuhan lab.
This video makes reference to an ingredient in the moderna vax.

https://rumble.com/vhcp3d-ted-nugent...tch-fever.html

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Nailed it! Did everyone forget about the incentives for covid deaths and the flawed PCR test already? Wake Up!

So should we stop of every Vaccine we have out there? Do a 20 year test and see how many die?

In fact stop all meds until we do a 50 year study see how many die?

Many people claim no Vaccine is needed for anything and some go as far as to claim that all meds are fake.

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Originally Posted by greatwhite

So should we stop of every Vaccine we have out there? Do a 20 year test and see how many die?

In fact stop all meds until we do a 50 year study see how many die?

Many people claim no Vaccine is needed for anything and some go as far as to claim that all meds are fake.

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Nah full steam ahead! Take mine too. Haven't heard those claims here yet but who knows. Come on keep doubling down and I'll start calling you Betty White.

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Originally Posted by JBen

Any stats you throw out is nothing but fear mongering from an evil cabal of anti vaxers that want to depopulate the globe.

See how that works?

The statement you challenged wasn’t about one approach being more effective or better than another. Your “rebuttal”

But was “the risk from Covid to individuals, ( depending on age) far outweigh the risk from vaccines. See also my other post about the risk of cancer via carcinogens in smoked meat.

Do you see the army in LTCs?
do you see thousands being killed by vaccines? And even in young healthy people where Covid is a really, really small risk. The risk of long Covid, and permanent heart/lung damage. Which would/could mean an early grave later in life...

Would help if you didn’t change the channel

Be that as it may,
Texas. Per capita
165 per 100k

Ontario
Under 50? (Despite having fully dosed far fewer)

the numbers in the US, UK, Israel are plummeting. Thanks most likely to vaccines. Unless the evil cabal on your side have found away to bury the tens or hundreds of thousands dead and seriously ill from vaccines without anyone knowing...

I think I’ll stand by my statement.

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It was only a few weeks ago Trudeau telling Canadians the vaccines are safe.
AstraZenica banned in near forty countries, not to worry, Health Canada approves. How many deaths and what was it, 1 in 60,000 chance of blood clots. No thanks. Are we still poking Canadians with it?

The dangers of an experimental vaccine far out weigh the dangers of using other safe therapeutics to combat a virus.

If the vaccine are as safe as were told how come the makers and governments won't stand behind them. Instead you take all associated health risks yourself, the people giving it out, their hands are washed clean of it.

Only months ago they said the vaccines are not for children. Now that rule has changed.

The armies report on LTC was many not dying of covid, many dying from lack of care, neglect in the homes.

Canadaman.
“Maybe”?

But that’s not what I said, or was talking about. Was I.

Impact started a thread about the ingredients. A bunch of people, said a bunch of things. I talked about risk. Mentioned people being happy to inject themselves with carcinogens, and sugar. And said, the risk associated with Covid, outweighs the risk from vaccines.

With respect to AZ.
I’ve posted my thoughts on that. There’s an election coming, and they have to save face and votes. Their strategy to get as many people jabbed as possible, and make lots of noise about the percent of the population vaccinated. Imo, transparent.

As far as I know three people in Canada have died as a result. Three.

And according to this article, the risk of developing a very survivable blood clot. Is 1:1,000,000 (uk stats).

but even at 1:60,000

The risk of Covid?
well 225 Ontarians people between age 30-70 have died. That works out to about 1 in 57,000. dead.
Long Covid and life shortening heart/lung damage? The jury is out. Likely for many years....


Being struck by lighting ( 10%) or 1:10

Developing cancer? About 50% on cancer or 1:2 .
By all means, keep firing up the smoker. While “screaming” vaccines are so and too risky.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/corona...-say-1.5437073

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Back to 225 dead working aged Ontarians ( those going out and about). Well so far, just three Canadians have died because they got AZ. That is, three too many. We don't need stats that anyone can claim are bunk. I am curious though why we are fast to discount any Covid stats, but oh so ready to scream about vaccine risk and complications. The sources are the same......

Perspective.
The US, UK and Isreal are making us look like fools and chumps. Their lives are largely back to normal. Their economies booming (more so the US). While we are sucking wind, on a ventilator, with very long term consequences........

225 dead.
Im pretty sure, more than 225 busninesses have closed, more than 1,000 have or will lose their homes. And much much more. And many in the electorate, like they are happy to inject themselves with carcinogens, not bat an eye at the risk. Hear no evil, see no evil, so long as they feel no pain.