The original post made no mention of any controlled hunt so it was assumed the enquiry was about a hunt in general. The correct answer to his post has been correctly answered--a few times.
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The original post made no mention of any controlled hunt so it was assumed the enquiry was about a hunt in general. The correct answer to his post has been correctly answered--a few times.
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Originally Posted by Greenhorn
Now this is interesting, say I have no friends that hunt and I never skinned an animal before, its too heavy for me to put in the truck or hang by myself..... what am I to do, leave it to rot? Dragging, skinning or butchering is not hunting the animal.... That all takes place after the animal is hunted/killed...
If this infact is the law, its a silly one and who would get charged, the land owner or my neighbor for coming down with his ATV to help load it?
Controlled hunt regulations change everything from firearm usage to party hunting depending on specifics in each WMU,but,in other WMU's that don't have a "controlled" hunt,having an unlicensed person assist in retrieval as you described isn't an issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by fratri
Without doing a bit of digging into the regs, I'm pretty sure the controlled hunts only regulate Hunter numbers. Party hunting etc still remains the same, providing everyone has a controlled hunt validation. The definition of "hunting" does not change.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
This poor dead horse is sure gettin' a whoopin'.......
I agree Rick.Quote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
The definition of hunting does not change. Observing is not hunting...therefore the observer is not a hunter...controlled hunt does not apply to them.
Retrieval and butchering does not fall into the already (properly) quoted definition of hunting from the FWCA...therefore is not hunting...controlled hunt rules do not apply.
Controlled hunt rules do not apply in these cases towards an observer or some one helping retrieve any more than it does on a random pedestrian raking a walk through the woods. Greenhorn...you were not given proper advice...or misunderstood...or the CO misunderstood the question.
If someone gets the digital edition of OOD, maybe check page 20, May/14 edition and cut and paste the Ask a CO article.......
Attachment 27281 How's this?Quote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
full definition:
“hunting” includes,
(a) lying in wait for, searching for, being on the trail of, pursuing, chasing or shooting at wildlife, whether or not the wildlife is killed, injured, captured or harassed, or
(b) capturing or harassing wildlife,
except that “hunting” does not include,
(c) trapping, or
(d) lying in wait for, searching for, being on the trail of or pursuing wildlife for a purpose other than attempting to kill, injure, capture or harass it, unless the wildlife is killed, injured, captured or harassed as a result,
and “hunt” and “hunter” have corresponding meanings; (“chasse”, “chasser”, “chasseur”)
That should work !!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Fishy Wishy
there needs to be less restrictions on youth hunters wishing to accompany an adult on a hunt in Ontario is the bottom line. unfortunately there are those who have abused and continue to abuse their rights, and thus we have strict laws and less opportunity.