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November 8th, 2014, 11:30 AM
#61
The original post made no mention of any controlled hunt so it was assumed the enquiry was about a hunt in general. The correct answer to his post has been correctly answered--a few times.
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November 8th, 2014 11:30 AM
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November 8th, 2014, 01:53 PM
#62

Originally Posted by
Greenhorn
I just moved to NB last year .lived in Windsor Ontario Since 1979. I still own a farm in Harrow, Ontario, and had a controlled hunt tag every year since 96.I contacked a CO one year because I had an ankle operation and could only walk with crutches. " I asked if I killed a buck could I get any body to help drag the deer. NO,unless they had a controlled tag. dragging ,butchering is considered in the definition as hunting. Brent.
Now this is interesting, say I have no friends that hunt and I never skinned an animal before, its too heavy for me to put in the truck or hang by myself..... what am I to do, leave it to rot? Dragging, skinning or butchering is not hunting the animal.... That all takes place after the animal is hunted/killed...
If this infact is the law, its a silly one and who would get charged, the land owner or my neighbor for coming down with his ATV to help load it?
"Everything is easy when you know how"
"Meat is not grown in stores"
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November 8th, 2014, 02:33 PM
#63

Originally Posted by
fratri
Now this is interesting, say I have no friends that hunt and I never skinned an animal before, its too heavy for me to put in the truck or hang by myself..... what am I to do, leave it to rot? Dragging, skinning or butchering is not hunting the animal.... That all takes place after the animal is hunted/killed...
If this infact is the law, its a silly one and who would get charged, the land owner or my neighbor for coming down with his ATV to help load it?
Controlled hunt regulations change everything from firearm usage to party hunting depending on specifics in each WMU,but,in other WMU's that don't have a "controlled" hunt,having an unlicensed person assist in retrieval as you described isn't an issue.
If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....
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November 8th, 2014, 03:28 PM
#64

Originally Posted by
trimmer21
Controlled hunt regulations change everything from firearm usage to party hunting depending on specifics in each WMU,but,in other WMU's that don't have a "controlled" hunt,having an unlicensed person assist in retrieval as you described isn't an issue.
Without doing a bit of digging into the regs, I'm pretty sure the controlled hunts only regulate Hunter numbers. Party hunting etc still remains the same, providing everyone has a controlled hunt validation. The definition of "hunting" does not change.
This poor dead horse is sure gettin' a whoopin'.......
Last edited by rick_iles; November 8th, 2014 at 03:30 PM.
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November 8th, 2014, 04:08 PM
#65

Originally Posted by
rick_iles
Without doing a bit of digging into the regs, I'm pretty sure the controlled hunts only regulate Hunter numbers. Party hunting etc still remains the same, providing everyone has a controlled hunt validation. The definition of "hunting" does not change.
This poor dead horse is sure gettin' a whoopin'.......
I agree Rick.
The definition of hunting does not change. Observing is not hunting...therefore the observer is not a hunter...controlled hunt does not apply to them.
Retrieval and butchering does not fall into the already (properly) quoted definition of hunting from the FWCA...therefore is not hunting...controlled hunt rules do not apply.
Controlled hunt rules do not apply in these cases towards an observer or some one helping retrieve any more than it does on a random pedestrian raking a walk through the woods. Greenhorn...you were not given proper advice...or misunderstood...or the CO misunderstood the question.
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November 8th, 2014, 04:28 PM
#66
If someone gets the digital edition of OOD, maybe check page 20, May/14 edition and cut and paste the Ask a CO article.......
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November 8th, 2014, 05:27 PM
#67

Originally Posted by
rick_iles
If someone gets the digital edition of OOD, maybe check page 20, May/14 edition and cut and paste the Ask a CO article.......
IMG_20141108_171338.jpg How's this?
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November 8th, 2014, 05:39 PM
#68
full definition:
“hunting” includes,
(a) lying in wait for, searching for, being on the trail of, pursuing, chasing or shooting at wildlife, whether or not the wildlife is killed, injured, captured or harassed, or
(b) capturing or harassing wildlife,
except that “hunting” does not include,
(c) trapping, or
(d) lying in wait for, searching for, being on the trail of or pursuing wildlife for a purpose other than attempting to kill, injure, capture or harass it, unless the wildlife is killed, injured, captured or harassed as a result,
and “hunt” and “hunter” have corresponding meanings; (“chasse”, “chasser”, “chasseur”)
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November 8th, 2014, 05:40 PM
#69

Originally Posted by
Fishy Wishy
That should work !!!!
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November 8th, 2014, 05:46 PM
#70
there needs to be less restrictions on youth hunters wishing to accompany an adult on a hunt in Ontario is the bottom line. unfortunately there are those who have abused and continue to abuse their rights, and thus we have strict laws and less opportunity.