Tundra Swan Permits Have Increased

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Originally Posted by Snowwalker

Seen a few up close. Lots of hissing and bluffing on their part, but only had to "handle" one. They get real calm when your holding their head down.

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Wasn't in Ontario then unless in March at Almer

I don't think he is the only one who would like to hunt them.

I can also come up with many reasons questioning why we even have a Elk hunt. Technically with less than 2000 animals they should be considered endangered. There are and always will be many reasons not to have some sort of hunt.

Antelope, Big Horn Sheep to the best of my knowledge don't and never have existed in Ontario.

There are more Caribou then Elk.

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Originally Posted by jaycee

Snowwalker found this " just for you, ";)

Trumpeters and Tundras are similar looking species that are more difficult to identify. Reports from wildlife observers will help biologists monitor the recovery of Trumpeter Swans. Positive identification is essential, as Trumpeters often mix with flocks of the relatively common Tundra Swan throughout their migration and winter range.

Distinguishing Trumpeters from Tundras is not easy, but it is possible by paying close attention to a few distinctive characteristics

From the latest reports that I could find, there are slightly over just 1,000 Trumpeter Swans in Ontario, so why take the chance of killing even just a few accidentally as it has taken the people involved in the restoration project to raise this many [which is not a lot ] , since 1982.
Think about it , 35 years to get the total up to around 1,000 , that' about 28 to 30 per year, to loose a few to accidental miss identification puts a very serious dent in the breeding population .
Yes I have a burr under my saddle as people are working hard to restore these magnificent birds , some very close to where I live, and others want to take a chance and accidentally kill them.

If you want to shoot/kill Tundra Swans , go to where there is an actual legal season for them , the same as I have had to do to hunt Antelope, Elk, Big Horn Sheep and Caribou as none of these animals can be hunted in Ontario even thou there are Caribou in this province.
The person that is pushing for a Tundra Swan season here, obviously has the means to go hunt them where ever they are hunted, as he is willing to put up well over $ 10,000 to $20.000 to establish a season here.
I would not be against this , "if there were no Trumpeter Swans here " but there are and they are mixing with Tundras. Myself , I have absolutely no Inclination to hunt them here, If I should choose to do so, I will travel to where the Tundras can be hunted, I will enjoy the experience along with the change of scenery.

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Antelope, Big Horn Sheep to the best of my knowledge don't and never have existed in Ontario.

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Never said they did, is there something you don't understand here?
What I am saying , is that if you want to hunt whatever, go where they are , there are moose in Ontario, but not where I live , so I have to travel to that part of Ontario where I can hunt them. same as bears , go where the game that you want to hunt is , simple as that.
Also no different than the season for over abundant species ie; snow geese they are only hunted in Unit 65 from Mar. 01 to May 31 /2017 , if I want to hunt them I have to travel to where they are legally hunted, although I do see them around here landing in some fields, but! I cannot hunt them here.

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Originally Posted by Rodbender

Wasn't in Ontario then unless in March at Almer

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No up in Uranium City SK. Lots of ponds and areas for them to stop over.

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Originally Posted by jaycee

Never said they did, is there something you don't understand here?
What I am saying , is that if you want to hunt whatever, go where they are , there are moose in Ontario, but not where I live , so I have to travel to that part of Ontario where I can hunt them. same as bears , go where the game that you want to hunt is , simple as that.
Also no different than the season for over abundant species ie; snow geese they are only hunted in Unit 65 from Mar. 01 to May 31 /2017 , if I want to hunt them I have to travel to where they are legally hunted, although I do see them around here landing in some fields, but! I cannot hunt them here.

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I knew what you were saying. I do travel to hunt. One of the benefits of the job.

Well there are Tundra Swans in Ontario, so whats the problem. The Identification excuse is crap you do know that. On your reasoning we should pretty much ban hunting.

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Originally Posted by jaycee

Never said they did, is there something you don't understand here?
What I am saying , is that if you want to hunt whatever, go where they are , there are moose in Ontario, but not where I live , so I have to travel to that part of Ontario where I can hunt them. same as bears , go where the game that you want to hunt is , simple as that.
Also no different than the season for over abundant species ie; snow geese they are only hunted in Unit 65 from Mar. 01 to May 31 /2017 , if I want to hunt them I have to travel to where they are legally hunted, although I do see them around here landing in some fields, but! I cannot hunt them here.

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Well there are Tundra Swans in Ontario, so whats the problem. The Identification excuse is crap you do know that. On your reasoning we should pretty much ban hunting.

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So what's the problem ? It's guys like you!
It's very obvious that this is something you will never understand, even the " Experts in the field " say that identification is a definite prerequisite, did you not read the other post ?
My reasoning is definitely "not to ban hunting " but go where the game is like most other hunters.

There are thousands and thousands of tundra swans that migrate through Ontario every fall and spring, absolutly no reason to travel when we have them right here.............no point in going back and forth with you........

Guys like me? You don't even know me nor have you hunted with me. So clearly you have an extremely limited view of this and you obviously have an ax to grind. It also seems to me you are clearly in the minority.

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Originally Posted by jaycee

So what's the problem ? It's guys like you!
It's very obvious that this is something you will never understand, even the " Experts in the field " say that identification is a definite prerequisite, did you not read the other post ?
My reasoning is definitely "not to ban hunting " but go where the game is like most other hunters.

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The majority of residents in the long point area and hunters are strongly against a swan hunt, this is where a good majority, people have been against it for 10 years or how ever long he has been pushing this, dose he have any support from any major hunting clubs or organization?
in long point theres hundreds of people watching the swans so be that many city people watching you shoot them and fact is trumpeters will die and the people don't want that down there, cause its gunna start a storm