I'm a non gunner now,but I just popped in..it amazes me now as it did before that you come to a forum segment called firearms n ammo..ya kinda half expect your gonna see something like 50 gr hpbt on 38 grs of h380 is a good load in 22/250..but no in ontario it's a bull legal tall crap thing...I'll say now as always,,and yous wonder why your loosing your guns..to squabs and a turnip have more gun culture