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382 billion dollar deficit for 2020. What a dog and pony show all smoke and mirrors and another 100 billion in stimulus spending to come. Hopefully it is better spent than the last 382 billion but I highly doubt that seeing who is in charge and there past performance. Chrystia Freeland speach was about as amusing as the bobble head setting behind her agreeing to all the verbal diarrhea exiting her mouth. Poor Canada and the future generations to come.
A perfect example of 'stupidity knows no bounds'. Just keep throwing our money at a problem they created, then creating more problems. Normally with stupid people the money runs out the the lunacy stops....but not for the Village Idiot and his Gang of Merry Misfits....they just get the Bank of Canada to print more money.
They are not done yet......they still have to buy back all the guns for the right price. This is going to get expensive really quick. IMHO I think they will just grandfather everyone and call it a day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tigboy 304
Do you remember that TV show that aired some years ago, well it's back... " The Gong Show "
Couldn't watch it, the incompetence of the liberals makes me sick.
Well justlied seems to be so proud that federal debt has surpassed 1 trillion now that he is spending money like there is no end of it. He's spending 3 billion of our dollars to plant 2 billion trees. Those 2 billion trees being planted must be to make sure there won't be a paper straw shortage when the single use plastic ban comes into effect that he forced upon the country.
The bobble head sitting behind her today could have auditioned for the gong show as a clown. The purple lipstick stick she was wearing made her look like one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bo D
I would have much preferred 100 billion in hand outs (deficit) and 382 billion in stimulus spending.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tigboy 304
... I wonder what they hid in it..... Lib. Gov't is running quickly toward a cliff.... Trudeau gave himself a 2 month vacation to avoid WE investigation and now Libs are panicking so they can get their 6 week vacation.
https://www.facebook.com/PierrePoili...72802552884136
Trudeau has this country in such a huge hole that it will take generations to get us out of it and he continues to spend.
If and when we finally get a government that will make the tough decisions and necessary cuts to try and get us out of this then that government will look like the bad guys and probably not get a second term because there are too many lazy people in this country who just want the Liberal handouts and don’t want to work.
When are the citizens of this country going to wake up and get rid of this corrupt Liberal government?
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When governments buy votes with handouts ... there is only one possible ending ... we will never dig ourselves out of the hole, and no fiscally responsible government will be sustained ... so we keep going down in a spiral, until there is nothing left ... or maybe they just keep printing, printing, printing, printing and no one cares anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mauro
I have to ask, but did not Ford and the Conservative government of Ontario, close parliament during a pandemic? From July 22nd until Sept 14th. They have a majority , they could have stayed open, to deal with this crises if they wished. Is that why our planning and implementation is behind now?Quote:
Originally Posted by mosquito
How very true Mauro on all counts you have posted. To answer your last paragraph I don't know but I will say that the sooner this country kicks the libturds to the corner as we did in Ontario the better off the country will be!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mauro
If that’s the way you feel, then you loose the right to complain about whatever Ford does. We gave him the power, yes I voted for him as well.
Have you seen any posts that I have made in the past complaining about the performance of Doug Ford and the Ontario PC party. I don't remember any such posts but if I have feel free to point them out.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Trudeau sucks.
' As we did'.....I was not referring to you specifically , just about many on here, but if the shoe fits......Mandatory masks, lock downs are all on him. Most of the posts on that thread are tearing up his policies, and the conservative parties decisions. From staunch conservative supporters? I will say again, they have a majority, it is all on them.... well we voted for him.. Lets show how dissatisfied we are , at the response of the provincial governments handling of this crises , next election, at the poles. lol.
Ford is following the advice from his experts - Public Health Ontario........right wrong or indifferent he is taking advice from experts in the medical field. You can not say the same about Justin. You see Justin is buying votes with our wallets. Are you telling me that he is listening to his "expert" Chrystia Freeland? Chrystia has NEVER held a finance role in her life but now she is our finance minister..........how does that happen? Please tell me Justin also bought her a 'Finance for Dummies' book to read before bed. She went from being a journalist writing about finance to a politician and as soon as Justin needed a yes man she was appointed.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
But then again Justin was a drama teacher and a white water rafting instructor before he became a politician so it makes logical sense why he would appoint such an incompetent person to the position of finance minister just before he decides to give away the farm. Reminds me of a scene out of Dumb and Dumber actually
Surprised to see countries that were officially bankrupt with far less debt that Canada has now:Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkB
Iceland. Year: 2008. Debt: $85 billion. ...
Argentina. Year: 2001. Debt: $145 billion. ...
Russia. Year: 1998. Debt: $17 billion. ...
Mexico. Year: 1982. Debt: $80 billion.
Then we could end up like Venezuela HaHa...
Definitely, Ford is following his experts too blindly and it almost seems he has been doing some things that seem to have only political and no other reasons but in respect to his performance he is 100X better than the current Federal Liberals that have lied (masks, SNC, WE, checking at airports, vaccine, firearms etc. etc.), been corrupt (WE, power grabs, blocking investigations of ethics and SNC and WE...) and incompetent (handling of the Wuhan Pneumonia vaccine, screening, PPE, contracts to make PPE, WE etc.) ... ALL since the first of the year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tigboy 304
The new $400,000,000,000 in debt, large chunks of it money sent to other countries or currently untracked according to PMO, shutting down Parliament to kill the WE investigations and their attacks on legal firearm owners and their endorsement of a pseudo Communist World Economic Foundation agenda show them as being detrimental to Canada's future and alteast the next 3 generations it will take just to pay down the debt created this year alone.
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Originally Posted by MikePal
Perhaps that is the goal, create enough debt that the WEF 2030 agenda is possible since people will see no hope to reduce their own and this countries debts..
I think if it really gets rough, China will bail us out...after all they took on $1Trillion of the US debts.Quote:
Originally Posted by mosquito
What a shame such a great and once prosperous country as Canada can only sucure only 3 million doses of the covid 19 vaccine for the first round. Justlied and his libturd followers have put us behind the 8-ball from the get go!!! What a boondoggle!!!
For the amount of money wasted to this point everyone in the country that wanted to be vaccinated should be able to receive one as they are first released.
Well we all knew well in advance that Trudeau's goal was to try and bankrupt Canada, most Liberals would not even deny that. Obviously budgets do not balance themselves.
Any person who actually believed tat really is a moron.
I want all 10 of mine lol. She said there is enough vaccine 10 for every Canadian I want all them[emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji6]Quote:
Originally Posted by Tigboy 304
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You mentioned Trudeau is buying votes with fat wallets or something lol.
I heard something tonight about this that some of the people who deter the mortgage took loans and the cerb could be hit with a 5 g tax bill next year. . Its going to be a disaster recovery and a hole lot of angry people.
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Awwww screw it. Let's go big bring in the Universal Income give me my 2000 bucks a month. I would quit my job tomorrow. I take some of the money I have invested and pay off my house. I can easily find cash jobs working only 2 weeks a month netting me another 1500.00 bucks so pretty much part time, my wife could easily bring in another 500 bucks working here and there.
No mortgage I own everything and I will still have 4000 bucks a month to boot. Plus the money I still have saved and my wife has money in investments as well. I will be laughing all the way to the bank.
My kids will still inherit everything and enough to give them a good push ahead and they can laugh at the suckers.
Well that fiscal update was enough to make the rats jump ship..
Obviously having two bosses that haven't a clue about Finances, let alone a budget, was more than they could bear.
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The top bureaucrat at Canada’s finance ministry announced he is leaving his post a day after Justin Trudeau’s government unveiled an update on hundreds of billions in emergency Covid-19 spending.
Deputy Finance Minister Paul Rochon said his last day is Dec. 14, according to an email to the department Tuesday obtained by Bloomberg. He is the fourth major economic policy maker in the country to leave their post this year.
Rochon has been a finance department veteran for nearly three decades, and served at a number of senior positions before his appointment to top bureaucratic post in 2014.
he deputy minister is the country’s third most important federal economic policy maker after the finance minister and Bank of Canada governor.
Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland praised Rochon’s “distinguished” record in both the current crisis and throughout his career. “The sterling reputation and credibility of Canada’s finances is owed to Paul, and to people like him, who have dedicated themselves to serving the public good,” she said in an emailed statement Tuesday evening.
Rochon’s departure will take place only five days after his counterpart at the Bank of Canada, Senior Deputy Governor Carolyn Wilkins, steps down from her post. Wilkins hasn’t said what she plans to do next.
Former Finance Minister Bill Morneau resigned in August after a rift with Trudeau erupted into public view. The prime minister named Freeland in his place, pledging to keep the spending taps open through the coronavirus crisis
Hot air lads,all of it. What has Erin O'Toole in the way of a plan or solutions.None.If Canadians think they were badly off with Justin and his relief programme,how would they have done under a Conservative Government?
They would still not have had a vaccine as none had been approved.Only today Britain is rolling out a vaccine because they have the means to produce it.
O’Toole would be so much better. We have had almost a year of Covid 19 and Trudeau has done nothing good. Ford’s hands are somewhat tied by Trudeau so I don’t blame him and will vote for him again.
Who wants a basic income lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
Who has only the basic?
From phones to cable, insurance, YouTube, Amazon prime basic is not good aways need a upgrade.
How about basic for the welfare
And elite for the ones that has worked for decades [emoji16].
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We would be far better off with a Conservative government. Trudeau has done nothing except hand out money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
We only need to look south to see how the left is dealing with Covid. Now that Biden is the president elect yesterday they had 180,000 new cases and 2600+ dead. So far covid in the USA is the worst its been and now its Bidens fault, and whats he doing about it?
I’m confused, the flu vaccine I received last week was produced in Canada. Why can’t that same company produce Covid19 vaccines here in Canada?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Trudeau said he secured millions of vaccines for Canada but the other countries come first because they can produce them and we cannot.
All I know is when the recession in 2007 hit Canada cane through it pretty good under a Conservative government.
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Lmao. ( Hot air lads, all of it.) How original coming from general blowhard himself!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
The issue is our present welfare system is a way of life not 'temporary' assistance while being re-trained or re-educated. I see 2nd and 3rd generation of families playing the system to their advantage. Basic income is a way for those that are deemed unemployable to live better by doing nothing to contribute to society. IMHO you should prove you have done something to better yourself BEFORE you get your gov't cheque.......training, applied for jobs, or volunteering.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishfood
News flash but having a cell phone, an ebike, a taxi cab to the grocery store, booze, and bingo's are NOT a basic necessity.
Maybe if you researched the FACTS before writing your opinion might be changed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mauro
"How does this compare to the Harper government’s fiscal record? In 2006-07, the Conservatives inherited a surplus of $13.8 billion — which they turned into a deficit of $5.8 billion within two years.
Since then, they have been in deficit each and every year. In 2009-10, the deficit reached its peak of 3.5 per cent of GDP. They are desperate now to show a surplus in 2015-16 — one surplus in nine years. Since Harper was elected, the federal debt has increased by over $150 billion, wiping out the reduction in federal debt achieved under Chretien and Martin. Not much to boast about there.
https://ipolitics.ca/2015/04/19/no-m...a-catastrophe/
The big problem is enforcing your will on these types of people.Mike Harris decided he would cut the welfare roles way back with his common sense revolution.Your welfare/criminal class care not,instead of breaking into 20 cars a night in the downtown core they broke into 40 cars.Loose change,computers,phones, all off to the second hand stores.Instead of boosting 2 delivery trucks a day they boosted 5.You can't force anybody to work in or out of jail,do you really want some of these people volunteering,just asking to get ripped off.Any programme you want to make up they will figure a way around it with the assistance of social workers, case workers and legal aid lawyers.If you mess with them to much you will probably get sued.Quote:
Originally Posted by 410001661
again...the inconvenient truth of the Harper Government during the Global recession..
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While the Canadian economy during the Harper government years worsened on most aggregate measures relative to 1984-2005, it did quite well relative to foreign advanced economies. While many of these economies faced severe internal problems such as broken financial systems and a collapse of their housing markets, the Canadian economy essentially had to cope only with weak external demand. As a result, not only was the 2008-09 recession less severe in Canada than in most other advanced economies, but also the recovery in Canada was stronger. Moreover, employment growth in Canada over 2006-15 was far stronger than in the US and the other advanced economies.
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Finally, in contrast with 1984-2005, the Harper government years witnessed significant progress in real disposable income (after-tax personal income less inflation) per capita in Canada relative to the US. In fact, not only was the growth rate of real disposable income per capita in Canada double the rate in the US over 2006-15, it was also much faster than over the Mulroney-Chrétien-Martin years as a whole in Canada.
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That real disposable income growth increased during the Harper years was due to several factors: the household share of net national income rose instead of declining as during 1984-2005; the price of consumption increased less rapidly than the price of final domestic demand rather than rising more rapidly as during 1984-2005; and the tax and transfer system withdrew funds from households at a lesser rate than during 1984-2005. In addition, net investment income from abroad made a positive rather than a negative contribution to real income growth during the Harper years.
from: https://policyoptions.irpp.org/magaz...-harper-years/Quote:
The Harper government promised a low-tax, balanced-budget plan that could grow jobs and increase output and income. The government delivered better per capita real disposable income growth than its predecessors, but worse employment and output growth. And this record was determined largely by factors other than federal policy. The Harper government’s economic policies during 2006-15 met the objective of a strengthened fiscal position without sacrificing the goal of income redistribution, but had decidedly less success in meeting the goal of jobs and growth. In the end, a verdict on the degree of success of the Harper government’s economic policies hinges on the relative values that one attributes to the various economic objectives. In our own judgment, after 2010 the Harper government unduly sacrificed growth in order to improve a debt position that was already solid.
..the inconvenient truth about the Welfare cuts under the Harris government:
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The Liberal 1995–96 federal budget eliminated the CAP and replaced it with the Canada Health and Social Transfer (CHST), which would later be divided into the Canada Health Transfer (CHT) and the Canada Social Transfer (CST). The CHST not only eliminated four of CAP’s five conditions on funding, it cut approximately $7 billion from the federal government’s yearly transfers to provinces. In effect, the 1995–96 budget signaled the federal government was stepping back from provincial social policy. Provinces would have fewer federal dollars to put toward their social programs, but they would also have fewer federal standards with which to comply. This is the model upon which the CST is currently based.
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/site...ntReview_0.pdfQuote:
Since taking office in the spring of 1995, the Ontario government has embarked on a very ambitious welfare reform program. Indeed, cutting the rewards of welfare by 21 percent was one of the Harris government’s first legislative acts (Ontario, Cabinet Office Communications 1995). Effective October 1, 1995, the Ontario government cut $500 million from welfare spending in its first year by lowering welfare benefits to a level 10 percent above the average of the nine other provinces (Harris 1997). These savings were achieved by cutting benefits per person and by imposing stricter limitations on eligibility. At a first pass, this strategy appears to be working. Within one month of cutting benefits, the number of Ontarians dependent on welfare declined by 24,000 (Sabatini 1996). Two years later, as many as 185,000 Ontarians had been removed from the welfare rolls (Globe and Mai
Although the rewards of welfare have been cut significantly, Ontario’s welfare benefit levels are still 10 percent higher than the average of the other nine provinces. Indeed, by any absolute standard, they are still extremely generous. Once taxes and benefits are accounted for, people on social assistance are paid an implied wage of $9.21 per hour, or $2.36 in excess of the provincial minimum wage (Walker and Emes 1996). If individuals—in particular young and unskilled workers—are to be induced to return to the labour market, welfare
Overall, the Harris government deserves credit for reversing the trend of ever-increasing welfare payments in Ontario. For making the first, bold effort to reform welfare in a generation, the Harris government deserves a B for its social policies.
benefits must not be in excess of what these individuals could earn if they were to accept employment in the labour market.
Saw this from the Frasier Institute written during Harris's Government. Indeed Welfare becomes 'intergenerational' when there is no motivation to work. The Liberals screamed the loudest when cuts were made to social services back in the 90's but the reality was they were necessary due to the cuts from the Federal Government under Jean Chrétien.Quote:
Originally Posted by 410001661
But as a result, magically, once the tap was closed a bit and a lot of those who were unnecessarily on welfare went back to work.
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Today, state intervention in both the economic and non-economic affairs of private citizens is pervasive. The modern welfare state is now expected to provide welfare for the poor, unemployment assistance and job training for those who cannot find work, pensions and old age benefits for the elderly, education for the young, and universal health care for everyone. No person, from cradle to grave, is left unaffected by the extensive social assistance of the modern welfare state.
Trimming welfare caseloads should also address another problem associated with social assistance—“duration dependence.” One unfortunate dynamic economic consequence of welfare is that the longer one stays on social insurance, the less likely one is to find gainful employment (OECD 1994a). This happens because human capital tends to deteriorate when not in use. Another dynamic concern is “intergenerational dependence.” Evidence from the United States suggests that children raised in families that receive welfare are three times more likely to be on welfare when they become adults than children whose parents do not receive welfare (Hill and O’Neil 1990). If the purpose of welfare is to help individuals lift themselves and their children from poverty to self sufficiency, intergenerational dependence is a sure signal that the welfare system is failing in its most important
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Within one month of cutting benefits, the number of Ontarians dependent on welfare declined by 24,000 (Sabatini 1996). Two years later, as many as 185,000 Ontarians had been removed from the welfare rolls (Globe and Mail 1997g).
The biggest political tragedy I witness in Canada, is Harper being replaced by a buffoon ... why? Because we need change???? For what??Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
Some of those things stated by the Fraser Institute ... were real experiences for all of us. Domestic economy was strong, dollar strengthened to par with USD ... all the while the US housing industry crashed, while ours experience very little drop, and taxes for families went down over a couple of years, in a meaningful way, leaving us with more disposable income. And finally, although some will argue this point, he steered us through that recession, and managed to balance the budget by his last term ...
So yeah, I guess he was doing so good, the ding/dong voters had to kick him out ... what a bunch of ungrateful brats.
The Arrogant AutocratQuote:
Originally Posted by MarkB
For more than four decades, Canadian nationalist, publisher and best-selling author, Mel Hurtig, has been warning Canadians about the negative influences of the excessive corporate takeover of Canada, including the impacts of foreign ownership and so-called free-trade agreements.In this short but important book, Mel Hurtig turns his attention to the devastating impact that the Stephen Harper government has had on Canada, radically altering the democratic, social and economic fabric of the country. He shows how Stephen Harper's single-minded pursuit of big oil and the tar sands, at a time when the world must take dramatic action to arrest climate change, has inflicted enormous damage on our country and on our international reputation. He contends that Harper rose to power with an agenda so contrary to Canadian principles and values, that the only way he could pursue it was through a takeover of Canadian democracy.Mel Hurtig is the legendary Edmonton bookseller, publisher and creator of The Canadian Encyclopedia who became a political activist, then an author in 1991 with his huge bestseller The Betrayal of Canada. He is also the author of Pay the Rent or Feed the Kids, The Vanishing Country, Rushing to Armageddon and The Truth About Canada. He is an Officer of the Order of Canada, and has received many honorary degrees and other honours. He lives in Vancouver.
Gil, come on ... sounds like Mel is disillusioned ... Harper was about growing small business here, giving more disposable income to families (which actually happened, I witnessed that myself) so that they can stimulate local economy. He's pointing at his ambition to develop tar sands and calling that a problem?? ... and then Trudeau is allowed to buy a friggin pipeline project for billions more (just to have it roadblocked for months) and it's okay for Trudeau???? The same guy that has promised all kinds of CO2 emission reductions and paid MY money to Europe ... and CO2 levels are higher now than before??? And he gives Loblaws money to change their freezer compressors ... Loblaws?? Who was fined for price fixing bread!!!! Staple food for those struggling to make ends meet???Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Harper was WAY, WAY, WAY, WAY, WAY, WAY better than Turdeau. Like you cannot even put them on the same football field.
Your right old Mel was a "bourgeois nationalist"..ie: MarxistQuote:
Originally Posted by MarkB
A good review of his "Bathroom Book" :
http://collegequarterly.ca/2008-vol1.../doughty2.htmlQuote:
Mel Hurtig’s new compendium is what I call “bathroom reading” in the noblest sense of the word. It is more serious than “beach reading,” which seldom rises above the level of potboiler detective fiction and moist romance. At the same time, it requires less than full intellectual concentration. Encyclopedias of amusing subjects, books of lists or records and anthologies of very short stories are iconic in this genre.
In The Truth about Canada, Mel Hurtig has assembled forty chapters of about eight pages each (plus a preface, a conclusion, a glossary, two appendices and twenty-two pages of endnotes). The results are largely derivative and somewhat disorganized. There is little in terms of any coherent narrative or explanatory principles. History and theory are absent. Perhaps, however, the book’s apparent weaknesses are its strengths, for it is are great fun—especially for those with an unwholesomely gloomy sense of humour—and a great challenge to anyone who continues to wish that Canada might one day be “about” something, rather than a ragtag appendage to a declining American Empire with the singular oddity of having more French-speakers than Louisiana.
Mel Hurtig’s great forte is his distinction as one of the last of the liberal, bourgeois Canadian nationalists. He follows neatly in the splendidly idealistic tradition of Walter Gordon, who saw nationalism as an essentially positive and progressive force, but refrained from associating it with domestic issues of social class and international issues of imperialism. He is certainly no political radical; yet, at a time when all realistic and selfish impulses dismiss national loyalty (except in the language familiar from the likes of General Rick Hillier, pursuing patriotism in lock-step with US foreign policy), he plainly loves his country. Moreover, his emerging concerns with poverty and other matters of social justice reveal some development in his understanding of the limits of liberalism in terms of the pursuit of economic, as well as formal democratic, rights.
To many, “bourgeois nationalism” has long been a discredited ideology—most explicitly because it has been disowned by the bourgeoisie.” Most Canadian nationalists in living memory have been either “tories” (mainly of the distinctively “red” hue) or profoundly “democratic” socialists. This is as it should be. Canadian business interests have aggressively pursued American markets. Canadian consumers have been eager to acquire American goods and services cheaply. Accordingly, free market economics have dominated continentalist opinion for the whole of Canadian history, and have been held at bay mainly because of what George Grant famously called the “ridiculous project” of seeking to build a genuinely conservative society on the same continent as the greatest technological empire that the world has seen to date.
Where was Trudeau a week or so ago, oh yah thats right he was in China making trade deals with communists. Trudeau supporting a communist regime and the largest polluters on earth. Trudeau is going to stop climate change with a carbon tax. The tax dollars will be used to buy cool clean air for Canada...lol.
Gilroy your hero Trudeau is the one ruining democracy. And your other hero Biden is responsible for more than 2000 deaths a day down south.
Both are complete failures at leadership
Maybe he was there trying to figure out how in a Freetrade deal we buy 3x more goods than we sell to China..Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
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Canada imports from China was US$56.53 Billion during 2019, according to the United Nations COMTRADE database on international trade.
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Canada exports to China was US$17.49 Billion during 2019,
Well you could ...Harper was a great Quarter back and well Trudeau ran along the sidelines as the team mascot dressed in Silly Socks...HaHa..Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkB
Which team is he cheering for though... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZHUhfmlzXkQuote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
Can someone enlighten me on something that I've never really admittedly understood? Why as a country do we have to suffer economically for all of this climate control stuff? Are we not just a drop in a bucket of water when it comes to pollution? Maybe I'm ignorant to the fact, but I just can't wrap my head around why se should be economically challenged for something the other say 80% of the polluters are ignoring?
Pretty amazing you are blaming Biden when he is not yet in office.I suppose Trump sitting on his hands for the last nine months means nothing to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
Oh there is lots of bedside reading on Mr Harper.Just goggle Harpers abuse of power or similar words.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkB
https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2015/08/1...f-Power-Final/
But we are OK now Harper and Harris and all the others Mulroney,the servants of big business are happily sitting on numerous
boards making large amounts of money,pay back for being compliant little puppets.
Be enlightened...(thanks for the prompt, I had't realised just how one sided the problem is and why are we still do trade with them...)Quote:
Originally Posted by LiveBates
in case you can't read the text..China is accountable for 28% almost a 1/3 rd of the Co2 pollution in the world.
The only reason the Liberals are even pushing this agenda is because of a promise Trudeau made to Gerald Butts for getting him elected. Greta Thunberg sure saw thru what a phoney the Village Idiot was his true commitment to climate change.
https://i.imgur.com/43fNRGWl.jpg
You either believe in global warming or you do not, the Liberal Government were voted into power because they promised to tackle the global warming and impose a carbon tax along with other measures.Quote:
Originally Posted by LiveBates
If we don't do something about global warming we will all suffer,look at the fires in California or Australia,floods through the World, drought's at the same time in other parts of the world. These are increasing year over year.
So your going to pay a price either now or in the future.Re building homes destroyed by fire or flood which will result in increased insurance costs and eventually one might not even be able to get insurance.
Lloyd's of London have been taking a bath on insurance claims in particular towards condominiums and it looks like they may get out of that market,so condo boards have to look for new carrier's and the increased cost goes on your condo fee.
https://simcomanagement.ca/insurance-market-insights/
I wonder where C30, gets his information? Trudeau was not in China, 'a week or so ago'. Why blame president-elect Biden, even when he has no power to do anything until after inauguration day in January. Trump is in charge till then. The deaths are on him.
Trumps making immunity they need it we need we are not getting it .
What good is a vaccine in Canada when there is no public immunity? Clearly the vaccine will not be available to the majority of Canadians for a long time.
Heard that the vaccine may only give 3 months of security. The first group could be acceptable to the virus before the public is able to get a vaccine . It means it will be a continuous cycle until there is enough vaccine to vaccinate the majority of Canadians at the same time.
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Good point ... and by the way ... Turdeau goes and tries to look like prince charming in the Paris Accord ... making all kinds of promises, dishing out cash like it's going out of style, and now we have to pay taxes (carbon tax ... see my latest post https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...-Trudeau-Fund))Quote:
Originally Posted by LiveBates
And what exactly has it accomplished ... nothing, just another broken promise, and billions $$ lost/burned/wasted. Except for the money he gave to Loblaws to upgrade their freezers ... yeah, like they really needed us to pay for that.
Gil ... he was the prime minister ... he was allowed to be a strong leader ... and now we call it abuse-of-power ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Turdeau has taken the cake, eaten it, walked all over the dinner table, and had a crap on our front door ... he takes the abuse of power trophy by a long shot ... and here's the problem ... NOTHING to show for it ... just money burned.
Trump has been leading America, unlike Trudeau who was just in China sucking their c#+* signing trade deals with the communists. Great work, Trudeau supporting the world's largest polluter and contributor to global warming, if you believe in it...lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
You must have gotten that information the same place as the last time. lol
Canadaman takes after the Trump school of thought, make it up on the fly, the fact that he think's Trump has been leading America is a good joke ,maybe on the golf course when he is not sucking his thumb in his room after loosing.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Yup , same guy who thought Trudeau was in China last week, and that Biden is at fault and responsible for the U.S. covid deaths yet he is not in power.. 45 days until trump is dragged kicking and screaming from the Whitehouse. Then he is off to Russia, where he cannot be extradited for his crimes.
No he won't go to RussiaQuote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
He will go more tropical more golf lol.
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No chance he is going back to the homeland in Bavaria after the grandfathers was thrown out for draft dodging. LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...n-royal-decree
Of course this draft dodging comes naturally as The Donald managed to avoid it five times. Heel spurs indeed he could still have peeled potatoes.
https://www.businessinsider.com/dona...am-war-2018-12
Noting compares to our communist wannabeQuote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
https://youtu.be/tVusYrv2jIU
Meanwhile China is the worlds largest polluter. How proud liberal voters must be to support this tool.
This is an example of a great leader in action.
And we have voters that say he's a great leader...lol
https://youtu.be/LMJ8UJ8wEiY
Paul Rochon deputy minister of finance, Canada's highest ranking bureaucrat is resigning effective Dec 14/20 . The ship is going down fast and the rats are fleeing while they still can hopefully justlied and the rest of his libturd friends go down with the ship but I highly doubt that as that would take a backbone. Poor Canada!!!
canadaman
You need to keep researching
It may surprise you, but Canada is the top polluter per person in the world, followed by America and Russia.
China has over 1.3 billion more people than Canada, yet the average Canadian emits far more greenhouse gas emissions – by 24 metric tons in 2014. America comes in a close second, burning 20 metric tons per person, followed by Russia with 14 metric tons of carbon dioxide.https://komonews.com/news/local/cana...america-russia
LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Tigboy 304
The only ships sinking right now are the HMS Republican and HMS Conservative.
You seem to be as delusional as Justlied gilly! Keep drinking that kool-aid it's doing you good! Cheers!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
He may be right, bribes, coverups, lies, ethics violations, payoffs, divisiveness, spouting openness and then hiding everything, treatment of vets/women etc., a childish petulant PM that people still like ... a party that talks and tries to live up to austerity, ethical behaviour, respect, hard work... do seem to be sinking under the lies and media propaganda. Just look we have Freeland saying some Canadians save too much .... what a f***** idiot she is! Take from the working class, take from the innovators, take, take, take... in her own words.. https://www.facebook.com/PierrePoili...57910239072379Quote:
Originally Posted by Tigboy 304
“A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims... but accomplices” - George Orwell
Saving for retirement, economic or health problems, ... just saving is a bad thing according to them... and the number of people willing to be accomplices does seem high, kind of like what we saw under Mao and Castro and other tyrants ... I mean leaders that Trudeau admires.
What would do me good would be seeing you put together a post with some value and without your usual stupid remark's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tigboy 304
People that live in glass houses shouldn't thow stones gilly as most on here would say that about you cheers!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
mosquito,
We had our own little tyrant in the form of Stephen Harper who tried to bully the people of Canada while being in the pocket of big business and it appears he was in the pocket of the Chinese Government giving them great deals.
https://www.thestar.com/opinion/comm...at-a-time.html
You don't get to speak for "most" on here only for your sad self. Try and post anything with some substance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tigboy 304
Despite what you would like to think or DREAM about most of your opinions seem not to be based on fact, for instance his treatment of women seems to be well received and Justine has twice the support from women as does the Conservatives.Quote:
Originally Posted by mosquito
The latest poll of course put's him well ahead of the Conservative's in many area's including response to Covid.
https://www.ipsos.com/en-ca/news-pol...id-second-wave
ROFLAO .... a toronto star opinion piece... all while Trudeau was already lying about balancing the budgets... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY3I2ewuxQ0Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
If you actually believe that I feel sorry for you state of mental and moral being, especially in the light Jody, W.R., Admiral Norman, Philcott, Caesar-Chavannes, Leona Alleslev and too many scandals and coverups to list that shows Justlied really does want to be like those he admires (Chinese dictatorship/Castro...)...
Mulcair had the current "leadership" correct.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DI9UVbvxAc
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Originally Posted by Gilroy
Yep.... that's why I said it was sad there was so many willing to be accomplices with this gov't ...
“A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims... but accomplices” - George Orwell
Seems he was right here too... "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell
Lol typical liberal. Enough said,cheers gilly keeper soft.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
mosquito,
Your man Harper sold out to China years ago https://canadians.org/analysis/harpe...anada-31-years
Reality check for you here Tigboy...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tigboy 304
While you may have experienced some positive reactions from our resident right-wingers on some of your right-wing posts, that is by no means indicative of the support of the other 90% of the members here who are card-carrying members of NO political party. We may be right-leaning as outdoorsmen and women, but even if we agree with what a parrot saying it's still annoying if it never says anything else.
At least our resident lefties put some thought and context into their posts.
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No worries chum I've got broad shoulders I just call it as I see it and if some don't like it so be it as I'm not here to win a popularity contest.Quote:
Originally Posted by GW11
Others are skeptical. “We have stayed too narrow,” says former Harper cabinet minister Chris Alexander. “We have remained a kind of party in the midst of a hangover after a fairly crushing defeat in 2015. And while there have been a few half-serious attempts to push things to open the door and in a new direction, they haven’t yet borne fruit. So I don’t think it’s a party that fully reflects — in its membership, its idea or its debate — the national conversation that Canadians want to have. And that’s what you need to be to win.
The bottom line from:
https://www.nationalobserver.com/202...ervative-party
Mosq. I assume that you are aware, that the person you love quote all the time, Eric Blair better known as George Orwell believed in Democratic Socialism, and supported that cause. He was a member of the Independent Labour Party. A party on the left. He was all the things you seem to detest. lol.
Yep, I know he was but as he got older he got smarter and if you read his writings... well I like this description.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
"Because of his prominent liberal past, Orwell's conservative writings were accepted and praised by the clueless liberal intelligentsia. "
Sadly some never gain any wisdom or just close their eyes and pick the course for their life they want, not the best course.
Mosq. That quote you just used sounds like it was written by a conservative so is meaningless unless you say who wrote it... . How convenient that someone you admire, lives most of his life as a Democratic Socialist , and left wing supporter, during that time he made all those quotes you like to use...... But in the end turns out to be a double agent, for the cons. That is rich....... Sounds like one of my favorite people, and mentor, Charles Templeton . I knew him well, and had many discussions, about his 'change of heart'. lol.
Some people just don't want to find or can't handle truth, sad. I hear the poor guy even got involved in the Liberal party.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann