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As reported tonight by the Globe and Mail....Threatening messages against the company , bidding to overseeing the gun buy back program, supposedly by gun advocates ,has forced them to withdraw. ? Posting the mangers address of her house and cottage. Nasty stuff!
Pretty sure FM is correct as this has nothing to do with the initial failed attempt at a buy back program. This was for a much smaller 60K contract related to personnel management.Quote:
Originally Posted by impact
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/cana...ments-gun-buy/
If it is fake news CCFR will let us know as their people are quoted in the story.
Thanks for the clarification. I just letting you know that I got today’s story on my Globe feed.
They already did, fake. They do alot of positions for the gov't and one job posting was a PM for the gun seizure project. The "threats" in question seemed to revolve around I.T. staff postings saying they would never deal with Altis again. Altis does seem to get alot of sole-sources positions when I looked at the gov't listing page showing the contractors positions filled. Then you get Justlied and Bill involved and truth goes out the window but here is the CCFR response.Quote:
Originally Posted by Species8472
https://www.facebook.com/594464695/p...8801437274696/
Fake ?How about the threats, were they fake. Seems like she had to address them.The Globe put the story out today and she addressed it? How is that fake? Obviously the threats scared the company enough to bow out of the contact. Who in their right mind thinks that is the right way to fight the bill. It will only fuel the anti s.
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Originally Posted by fishermccann
“It is unacceptable that the gun lobby has promoted threats, intimidation and harassment of people who are just trying to do their jobs,” said Mary-Liz Power, a spokeswoman for Mr. Blair. “This is reckless and completely unacceptable.”
I would say 98% of it is lies based on the past performance of Bill "I won't tell the truth no matter what" Blair
Some posts I saw said they would never use the company again, I am sure they would call that threats and although something I think is inappropriate the posting of her address ... well that ranks up there with the protests outside Ford's house etc.
Boy oh boy you just can’t stick to the original story. You just have to direct the narrative away from the Globe story which mentioned unacceptable threats. Read it, and tell me , that behaviour is acceptable.
So from CCFR's FB post we know the contract was cancelled today due to "blowback."Quote:
Originally Posted by mosquito
No specifics on what that blowback specifically entailed. Was her phone number and address actually posted somewhere or not? Was the line "you know what to do" actually coupled with her name and address? If it was that to me is a veiled threat.
The FB post seems to be lacking any specifics actually needed to prove/disprove the media story.
Guilty as charged. Tracey Wilson admitted there were threats and but refuses any responsibility despite posting pictures of employees and calling it the "the company hired to take your guns." Even after her half-hearted climb down she threatens that "business will change" for companies involved in the program.
WTF did she think would happen when she did that?
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Tracey Wilson, CCFR’s vice-president of public affairs, posted pictures of employees of AltisHR, referring to it as “the company hired to take your guns.”
Ms. Tremblay believes the gun-control opponents confused her relatively small contract with the much-larger tender to advise on the design and implementation of the buy-back program, something many in the firearms community equate to illegal government confiscation.
“Placing a temp is not equivalent to running a buy-back program,” Ms. Tremblay said. “That was a misunderstanding, I’d say.”
To avoid the vitriol, Ms. Tremblay cancelled the contract on Dec. 8 and wrote a message on LinkedIn clarifying the company’s position: “We are not involved in a firearms buy-back program, and have no part in it.”
Ms. Wilson said that when she saw some of the more extreme posts, she tried to “call off the dogs” and phoned Ms. Tremblay for more detail on her company’s role. “We had a good conversation,” Ms. Wilson said. “I told her that threats should be forwarded to law enforcement. I take that seriously.”
She also asked her social-media followers to cease any threats against Altis.
“I didn’t ask for that response, I didn’t expect it, I was shocked by it and I called it out,” said Ms. Wilson of the negative posts, many of which have since been deleted. “I don’t condone the way things went down. That’s not what the CCFR stands for.”
At the same time, she said, companies should recognize the political risks of working on the firearms ban. “When somebody takes that contract,” she said, “business will change for them.”
Some aren't willing to give up their freedoms and lay down like sheep. Some will do what ever they see fit to fight oppression.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
When anti s read that story , they will point out that people who make veiled threats and try to intimidate others with threats,should not be in possession of guns.
Define "threats". Were they threats of physical harm or destruction of property or were they withdrawal of business or services? It makes a difference. The former are crimes while the latter is not. Rest well assured that if they were crimes,ever media entity in the country would have every website,front page of every newspaper and the lead story on every TV news telecast not to mention every Liberal politician with their panties in a knot. So far,that's not happening. So,take a deep breath and calm down.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Some believe the fiction the current gov't puts out too... maybe some shouldn't if they blindly believed, it also depends on the nature of their "threat", was it violence, was it real, was it to never use that head hunter again (there are some I won't) or is this just more LIbEral spin and lies?
Was the intimidation legal (like never using them again) or ethically and legally wrong like blocking police investigations... you know maybe some shouldn't be in power too... intimidating Jody W.R. etc. ...
https://www.theatlantic.com/internat...ybauld/584677/
and if you disagree...
https://nationalpost.com/news/politi...y-call-with-pm
She remained unapologetic, except for her remorse that she and her colleagues were all “accomplices” in a system that allowed the prime minister to “verbally admonish” MPs who expressed ideas in caucus that ran counter to his own; a system that saw MPs who voted against the government removed from their duties; a system that saw dissenting MPs intimidated
Yep, some using their position and intimidation shouldn't be allowed in their position... and I guess you would have to include the Governor General too.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/jul...ions-1.5657397
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Originally Posted by trimmer21
The nature of the comments by gun owners to the hired firm are largely irrelevant regardless of how serious they were/weren't. What is important in this is public perception. FM is right in that the actions of few hotheads will only make all of us look worse and further the support for the antis.Quote:
Originally Posted by mosquito
The fact that Tracy Wilson had to post something to try and clean this up means there is some basis to the story and serious or not that will be enough for the antis to further damage our cause.
The majority of Canadians support the bans. Whatever was said to cause this firm to cancel their contract whether justified or not will not help it will only get those on the fence to turn against us. We are already in the minority and the smaller that minority gets the smaller our chance of ever coming through this unscathed.
Exactly ... and the LIbErals like Blair won't turn down a chance to colour that perception to their advantage. Like McKenna quoting the National Socialists ... repeat your talking points alot and loud and people will believe... I saw a few sending off letters "threatening" to never use them again when I was having lunch and the whole story was pretty much over by evening it seemed when I got time to look more. Regardless, there will be the anti's and ignorant that will use this "opportunity" to create perceptions, the LIbErals are never one to turn down a "chance" at propaganda and hysteria and fear mongering. When the enemy is willing to lie, the media to spin and half truth something for a desired perception then having a few hot heads spouting is a disadvantage, ANTIFA and other hate groups can lie and burn with impunity but the firearms community needs to count to 1,000 and think of the proper response 3 times (then pick the best one) but will still likely be misquoted or misrepresented as usual in the current environment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Species8472
What proof exists that gun owners were involved? No one has been charged as of yet that have made public. The article by Ms.Wilson doesn't appear to be an attempt to "clean up" anything,merely an advisory to members. How do we know the "threats" weren't made by internet trolls simply to cause trouble? We don't know anything. Assumptions make fools of all who engage in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Species8472
I am not assuming anything. Clean up/advisory/charges/proof it is all irrelevant. Facts we know are Tracy Wilson called the owner of the firm - she has stated this. If nothing happened she would not have done this. The fact she felt the need to do that and to warn her members not to threaten the firm will be all that Joe Public needs to try and convict us - the Public are the ones who will make assumptions - not me. You are naive if you think the facts and/or proof actually matter. Something happened and the actual details/facts are irrelevant - it will hurt our cause.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
When the majority is already against us based on lies, when becomes time to take measures against oppressive government?Quote:
Originally Posted by Species8472
It will only hurt our cause if we allow it to like run and hide. If it turns out it was our own misguided doofusses,we'll deal with it,swiftly and honorably which is a damn sight better than the anti's will do if it turns out it was their supporters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Species8472
You can take measures any time you want to. In fact legal measures (court challenges) are already being pursued. If you are referring to illegal measures than i suspect if you chose now to make your stand than you would have a pretty tiny army and would end up in jail pretty quick. At the end of the day i have no idea what the straw would be to break the proverbial camels back but my take is there are better legal options at this point - like getting JT's government out via a confidence motion. Before we do that though we need to provide an electable option so we don't end up right back where we started.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
I never advocated run and hide. We can try and do damage control and can possibly even have some success at it but it's like getting a cut. You can clean it and dress it and let it heal but at the end you are still going to have a scar. No matter what we do this is gonna leave a mark. We can affect the size of the mark going forward but it's still gonna leave a mark.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
With the majority against us we will continue on to the final solution. The liberals aren't going back to where we started. Next step is buy-back, polite word for confiscation. Many won't be surrendering willingly, if it gets there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Species8472
Reading Wilson's quotes in the story there is no doubt she contributed to the problem. Then she threatens any business that might work on the buyback program saying "their business will change."
The CCFR has seen the last donation from me.
You get your news from Mainstream Media (MSM), it is guaranteed to be fake, exploited and inline with government wishes. That is the problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Its kind of sad that a truthful warning given by the wrong person becomes a threat. Anyone from the CCFR should not have any contact with a company involved in the buyback, their lawyers should.
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Why would CCFR lawyers have anything to do with the company that is part of a buy back? Are they breaking any laws ? So what would you take them to court on? Applying for a contract? Tendering a bid? A company legally bids for a legal government contract that you don’t agree with , so you take the company to court. For what? Such nonsense.
Because the CCFR has launched lawsuits against the government over the prohibition of legally owned firearms. Given that state it is within their rights to request information regarding the buyback.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Have your coffee, bud. I didn't say anything about taking them to court.
CCFR has to be very careful about anything they say now as words can and will be contorted to suit the antis agenda.
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Yeh I agree YOU have posted fake news, because an article written on the 06th October 2020 by the right wing zealot is not news, you really have to try and keep up on event's as they happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by impact
I will ask again with out the court visit. Why would the lawyers for CCFR, have any reason contact a company applying for a contract with the government?
Well thanks for posting Tracey Wilson echoes the sentiments of all law abiding citizen's in her Facebook message.Quote:
Originally Posted by mosquito
"TO BE CLEAR: I do NOT condone abusive, threatening behavior or harassment of the contractor and I urge you to leave them alone."
You might want to stick to the original Facebook quote from Tracey Wilson above because now your just making a complete fool of yourself AGAIN.Quote:
Originally Posted by mosquito
The Canadian people have spoken in the last election its over.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
This is the kind of oppressive tyrant corrupt government we are up against. The truth is hidden and falsified to the masses. Slandering gun owners to further agenda
https://youtu.be/Jv9yjRK2vWo
Its nice to know we have different levels of threats, play with words, another Trump supporter.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
It can't be as bad of threats the Carr office seen over the tow truck industry.
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Protests outside Ford's house. Well he is the Premier. The manager lady was applying for a job for gosh sake. They were trying to intimidate her into not taking it. They did, she bailed. See the big difference? I think most would.
But it's true some get over dramatic over little things .Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
We need to know what was said to better understand the threats being made.
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Far from it...lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Excellent reply.Quote:
Originally Posted by Species8472
Yes most "normal folks" would say something like "this matter is before the court's and at this time we have no comments to make". I imagine the lawyers for the CCFR are crying in their morning coffee and bashing their collective heids of the nearest wall. This sound's like a case for Rudy Giuliani and some damage control. ROFLMAOQuote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Have you seen what your tribe has done to Bobby Orr in the last month for having an honest opinion. You and Gilroy should really just STFU.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Canadaman,
"This is the kind of oppressive tyrant corrupt government we are up against. The truth is hidden and falsified to the masses. Slandering gun owners to further agenda"
If your man thought he was being slandered I am pretty sure he would be right off to his lawyers office trying to sue Minister Blair the reason I suggest he did not do this is because his is a bit unsure what he said and when.
If you look at YOUR last few posts on here you appear to be a little unhinged and hunters on here are simply not supporting you in any big numbers .
I think C-man has more of his F. in L. in him, than he would admit. lol.
I guess this is where you go when you lie.
Government propaganda.
No that will not be possible nobody is going to censored by you or anybody like you. So Mr. Orr and folks like Kevin O'Leary who supported Trump for re election and even some members of here have egg all over the faces. Joe gets nominated by the electoral college today and its onto the Liberal love in between Canada and the USA. Sunny days ........Quote:
Originally Posted by onelessarrow
Judging from your posts, how many big numbers on here support a liberal government?... lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Do you really think that this forum, represents a cross section of all voters?..... Delusional, you are.
Well apparently enough that they keep getting re elected, I guess the penny has not dropped for some of you guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
I know JBEN is onto it and knows that the GTA keeps voting in Liberals, but even he has a narrow minded view here.
There is poor old Bushmoose way up in the Soo a lonely Conservatives surrounded by Liberal supporters or 410001661 another Conservative surrounded by Liberals in his home riding. LOL
Firearm owners,the CCFR,CSSA,NFA all oppose harrassment and threatening by internet trolls. The leftist-liberals are the poster children for introducing "doxing" as a tactic which I personally find repugnant. I find it ironic that it's been turned against them and now they're whining and boo-hooing. Kinda figures,though,doesn't it? All of the responsibility for this lies at the feet of only two people......Justin Trudeau and Bill Blair in particular and The Liberal Party of Canada as a matter of policy.
Nah... he has the right to talk, sadly facts and morals and his talk seldom overlap but he has the right to be just likeQuote:
Originally Posted by onelessarrow
Justlied Trudeau... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY3I2ewuxQ0
Bill Blair ... https://cssa-cila.org/billblairlied/
and
McKenna https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY3I2ewuxQ0 (repeating talking points so people believe, not facts.)
IF he wants, let's not be like the left, openness let's you see both sides and what is true, the left only wants you to hear their side. Hence the vicious attacks and attempts to intimidate people (to use Celina Caesar-Chavannes's description of what it was like when she was an MP) being used by them. They want to create that perception of the centre and right doing that to distract people from talking or thinking so... let him talk.
Far less delusional than liberal voters who actually believe banning guns will make us safer...lolQuote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Far less delusional than anybody who thinks this moron is fit for the job
https://youtu.be/Nv58LBiy7OI
Sounds like sour grapes from those who voted for the side that lost. The voters have spoken.
Damn right they were trying to intimidate by publicizing where the business owner's family cottage is located and pictures of their employees. A bunch of slobbering morons intimidated the owner of a temp agency. What an achievement! :rolleye:Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Meanwhile Tracey said she tried to "call the dogs off" something that works best when they are your dogs. Either she knew damn well what the reaction would be when she identified the business as "the company hired to take your guns" or she is a complete and utter bubblehead.
Trudeau is stealing money from the people he works for.
That’s the issue. Explain how that is ok.
Ah " DOXING" would that be what happened to me on this forum a few week's ago when 410001661 decided to post my name and other personal identifiers and was then followed by MikePal doing the same and even posting photographs.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
That's OK Trimmer I think we understand and being called a Mall Cop, Troll, Anti Gun, Anti Hunter, Communist, its all good my brother just water off a duck's back, no this April I was not thrown of the forum but thanks for asking.
Well Thank,s buddy for letting me speak I am sure my dad who fought the Nazis for our freedom would be real happy.Quote:
Originally Posted by mosquito
Yeh pretty much, here is THE HONOURABLE MICHELLE REMPEL GARNER from Canadaman,s video trashing Derek Sloan over the vaccine issue, I mean how is the CONSERVATIVE PARTY ever going to form a Government when one of their MP,s is attacking another on National Television.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkBJiKahqxM
BWT What was Michelle doing sitting beside Jagmeet Singh in the House of Commons ,maybe its the new Conservatve/NDP party.I hope they don't get those water glasses' mixed up.
Both of them experts at NOT ANSWERING THE QUESTION.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7X6ZUsXm1M
Much better than the alternative, Harper was criticized for having too strong a hand and Justlied Trudeau makes him look wimpy ....Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
https://nationalpost.com/news/politi...y-call-with-pm
She remained unapologetic, except for her remorse that she and her colleagues were all “accomplices” in a system that allowed the prime minister to “verbally admonish” MPs who expressed ideas in caucus that ran counter to his own; a system that saw MPs who voted against the government removed from their duties; a system that saw dissenting MPs intimidated by their own colleagues.
So when Harper was in power a strong leader was a problem, when Trudeau is in power intimidating the A.G. illegally and other MPs is OK.... what a double standard. Openess, discussion... the search for truth and the best solution... those policies hated by dictators and tyrants ... oh yeah, Trudeau likes those too, heck he even pays off terrorists, was it so he can save money to attack vets? When a people speak with one mind and in total agreement they can do great things... or far greater evils...with this gov't I seem to only see coverups, lies, interfering with investigations, ethics violations etc. so it seem dedicated to the 2nd.
About the same achievements our FN's accomplish by shutting down hwys, overturning and burning vehicals, blocking railways for days, burning tracks. Many federal offences being ignored and allowed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
Our liberals support these criminal actions of by allowing this to go on un-challenged by law enforcement.
Maybe gun owners have learned a few lessons from FN on taking actions against oppressive government. Seems their actions are working because we have a government that won't challenged their criminal acts, nor attempt to ban guns from FN's
The Government is taking firm step's to stop people intimidating our First Nations People's they just arrested 23 people on the East Coast for burning down a first nations lobster building and for threat's, intimidation and assault. So its not going un challenged by law enforcement, as Minister Blair stated at the time we are a country where the rule of law applies. Hear,hear..Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
Would that rule of law not include First Nations blockade of railroads and highways? Seems there's 2 standards for Mr. Blair.
Apparently those actions were deemed a peaceful protest by the attending law enforcement officers, I thought the Premier Doug Ford might have shown up or said something but he did not do much.Quote:
Originally Posted by sawbill
So now you want to ban guns? Lol Oh I see you want to ban guns ,not from bad guys ,but entire races. That sir tells us all we need to know about you. I will make sure to give the First Nations guy at our hunt camp your address.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
So according to the right wing Rebel news and their commentators on this video the blame for all this INACTION is placed at the foot of JULIAN FANTINO you remember that OPP Commissioner and Conservative Justice Minister.Quote:
Originally Posted by sawbill
Julian at Caledonia sat on his hands and this has continued and now the Premier Conservative Dog Ford he is now sitting on his hand's.
THIS IS Ezra Levant at Rebel News it does not get any better than this him and his guest David Menzies lambasting the Conservative Premier and Julian Fantino.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjKBTp0r4sk
Lol . I am waiting for the screams about fake news,MS media and all that stuff.
Read my post, this has nothing to do with others intimidating FN. You have a bad habit of changing the subject.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
The law does not apply to FN's that block railways, highways, burn vehicles, train tracks, selling drugs and guns on reserves. These acts of intimidation are done by the FN and not against them, are liberals blind to the facts?
And have some of their chiefs made more than Harper did to look after 300 people [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
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In case you missed my post above I will put it here because you should be blinded by the facts from your own often cited source of accurate Conservative News. EnjoyQuote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
So according to the right wing Rebel news and their commentators on this video the blame for all this INACTION is placed at the foot of JULIAN FANTINO you remember that OPP Commissioner and Conservative Justice Minister.
Julian at Caledonia sat on his hands and this has continued and now the Premier Conservative Dog Ford he is now sitting on his hand's.
THIS IS Ezra Levant at Rebel News it does not get any better than this him and his guest David Menzies lambasting the Conservative Premier and Julian Fantino.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjKBTp0r4sk
I 'am running out of popcorn. LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
GO right ahead, because you don't know how to read and comprehend. Do you think your sheepish threats intimidating, send him or any other my address, I encourage you to if you think I'm so easy to roll over.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
[emoji897][emoji897][emoji897]Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Don't eat it to fast [emoji13]
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Comprehend? You stated clearly that you want to ban all FN from owning guns because of the actions of individuals .Last line post 60.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
Where did I state that I want to ban guns from FN? Learn how to read and comprehend. Your now making lies and falsified claimsQuote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Your posting on here clearly that you are a gun grabber "nor attempt to ban guns from FN's" it does not get any clearer than that. Do you not think our aboriginal brothers who stood with Canada at the founding of this nation against the American invaders should not at least have access to harvest deer and moose, considering what society has taken away from them over these generations, stripped them of their identity, locked them up in residential homes, separated them from parents.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
Shame on you Canadaman30, you need to change your name.
"About the same achievements our FN's accomplish by shutting down hwys, overturning and burning vehicals, blocking railways for days, burning tracks. Many federal offences being ignored and allowed.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
Our liberals support these criminal actions of by allowing this to go on un-challenged by law enforcement.
Maybe gun owners have learned a few lessons from FN on taking actions against oppressive government. Seems their actions are working because we have a government that won't challenged their criminal acts, nor attempt to ban guns from FN's."
I am pretty sure its the last few words you gave us.
Gil don't bother. Even when he is presented with his own words, it's deny ,deny , deny.
If you think Government and I want, are the same, your crackpipe needs a refill...Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Learn how to read and comprehend. Denial is what people like you live in. Such like, this kind of scum that people like yourself are proud to supportQuote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
https://youtu.be/8bGVNPw9R8o
Everybody on the forum can read what you wrote its plain and simple and when you get caught with your pants down you resort to the usual name calling. LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
Please tell us that you're not advocating that firearm owners use those tactics. It's common knowledge that FN has the federal government by the short and curlies in their ability to manipulate "political correctness" to the point the federal government is paralyzed in every way to deal with them. Not so for ordinary Canadians. Rest well assured that should firearms owners resort to such tactics,the power of The Crown will visit hellfire and mass destruction on firearm ownership,not just some firearms,but,all firearms. You've just seen how an innocuous post has just been deliberately misconstrued and turned against you by Liberal Party supporters. Be very careful what you put in print.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
The beginning of that doesn't look like peaceful protests to me [emoji3577].Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
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It's not whether you can read it, its whether you can comprehend it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
If the first nations are excluded from the guns that are banned across the country and Canada30 says the fn's should be banned as well, I hardly think that paints the picture that you're trying to create. What you're doing is called racebaiting 101.
Fishermcann is the master at it.
Not surprised you're cheerleading though, considering how well-conditioned you are to the system.
https://youtu.be/4m4_KibqaRU
Bang on Onelessarrow, at least your awakeQuote:
Originally Posted by onelessarrow
Then we have a leftist member on here that threatens to give my address/personal information as intimidation. Its ok though I won't let it hurt my feelings...lol
If they can't take them from or ban them from first Nation's that means everyone else gets to keep theirs too doesn't it ?
Why as a government do they keep dividing the people ? We are all Canadians we should have all the same rules .
Seems simple [emoji16]
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You posted your address and invited a fellow member of this site to come fight you. If you don't like what i said, come and fight me about it....... I just said, I could pass that information on to someone, who because of your comments , might be interested. If that is intimidation, what the heck do you call what you did? Don't wine about it ,if you do the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
That is precisely what he is suggesting. There are emotional weaklings in Canada who own guns and threaten a violent response to bans. They spout silliness like, "the government will get my guns bullets first!, "government will have to pry my guns from my cold dead hands!" and the always favourite "Molon Labe!"Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
You are also spot on about what will happen to him should he try to turn his Red Dawn fantasies into reality. You are also correct about and the damage such idiotic statements do to all of us which is why we must distance ourselves from the weak and delusional among us.
Fish,I think you're assuming too much out of emotion and a desire to "one-up" someone as a last word. How do you know that address wasn't bogus like 99.99% of the rest of the BS on the internet? Because there's many trolls and some who are extremely mentally unbalanced,posting perceived names and addresses could really threaten the security of someone's home and family. Some posters need to take a serious step back,take a critical look at actuality and cool your jets before someone gets hurt.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
T 21...Would not matter if it was a real address ...I DID NOT post his address . He did, previously ,when inviting a forum member over for some fisticuffs. How is it any different than the posting about Gils background, name and picture. Of a retired cop for gosh sake. Did the poster not think that he might have made some 'friends', in his working life. Yup they thought it was a gotcha moment, all in good fun. What is good for the goose.......
There are many unbalanced people out there which is why a CCFR rep posting the name, address, and pictures of the staff of a temp agency that may have been involved in the buy back is seriously bad behavior and merits condemnation by responsible gun owners.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
If some clown wants to post his own address what happens subsequently is on him and no one else.
As a matter of record,the data was initially published by the government in a press release. "Doxing" of the corporate officers and employees was NOT done by any rep of the CCFR,but,by some misguided person who clearly wasn't thinking. It shouldn't be difficult for law enforcement to find the culprit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
Not quite:Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/cana...ments-gun-buy/
It was not announced via press release.
And CCFR got the ball rolling...Quote:
In October, AltisHR, a 150-person staffing agency, won a third much-smaller contract; $60,000 to provide a temporary manager to help draft a management plan for the buyback program.
But the information only became public on Dec. 7, when the government responded to an order paper question from Conservative MP Blaine Calkins.
CCFR would know damn well posting an inflammatory remark about the company would cause the mouth-breathers to ramp things up.Quote:
The 28,000-member Canadian Coalition for Firearms Rights (CCFR), which staunchly opposes the ban, posted the response on Twitter and stated AltisHR was “facilitating” the buyback program. Followers of the group, then posted a photo of AltisHR CEO Kathryn Tremblay along with her cellphone number and location of her family cottage.
I invited a member who called me a useless p#$$y to name call in person face to face, but he wimped out and resorts to further name calling because he can't backup what he speaks.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Now you invite me to a fight, but give no location...lol.
Never did I ever give out any Gilroys personal info, but if you want to give out mine to your buddy because you also can't backup your callout, go ahead I have no problems with that at all.
Your final sentence is your perception. I find it ironic that the lefties who started this "doxing" crap were just "out doxed" by the right and now they're whining. If it's good for the gander.........Quote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
You mean like outing hunters posed beside Lions, Giraffes, Bear......Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
"cancel culture"
Doesn't make any of it right, it just is what it is
Nobody stated that was a peaceful protest, that reference was made towards the railway protest cited by Canadaman in his original post.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishfood
You had no problems with a fellow Conservative posting my photograph and another my personal identifiers?Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
Might want to read the entire article.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
Great work. Intimidated a temp agency. What an accomplishment.Quote:
Tracey Wilson, CCFR’s vice-president of public affairs, posted pictures of employees of AltisHR, referring to it as “the company hired to take your guns.”
A couple of posts your were all into reconciliation now this. OMG.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
Don’t bother they would deny, even if it was ‘Rebel news ‘ reporting it. Like Biden didn’t win. Lol
You bet I did and I've said so. That's dangerous for any LEO,be they retired,active,auxiliary or special constables. I'm sure some of the skels we dealt with were downright psycho who wouldn't hesitate at the chance to come after us or family members as some demented form of vengeance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Nope. I was a little late reading the thread when that post came up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
It was a chance for Gil to sound off. He took the high road. I commend him for that. It crossed a line.
Its all good, I have even had a member on here re print a PRIVATE MESSAGE to try and gain a point, he was quickly chastised by other forum members and does not post any more.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
It wasn't me giving your info, your pal FM threatened to do the same with mine because he cant backup his tough talk. Instead challenges me to a fight won't give me a location and tells me he might give my info I posted just like yourself to his buddy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
The difference with me is I don't care,it does not bother me in the least if a chicken wants to tell his friends to fight his battle, send them my way. You wont find any sheep when you knock on my door
PM sent please delete your apology.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
Lets nip this in the butt,Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
First off this is a 'public' forum..anything that gets posted here within the rules is then free for the world to see. If you want privacy stay off the internet...there is NO expectation of privacy here.
The picture posted (40 yrs old) was made available for public consumption by the Toronto - Metro Police - Groups - 1978 - 1987 to the Toronto Public Library as were hundreds of other pictures with the Officers name and rank. If you hold public office that is the price you pay, you don't have privacy when you were a uniform. Perk of the job.
And lastly this is the exchange..it was a pleasant discussion by both parties and no indication it offended, especially not by you personally Gilly. It was put then buried in the past till you decided to pull it forward again a month later. Whose the one bringing attention to you privacy it now ??
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Originally Posted by MikePal
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Originally Posted by Gilroy
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Originally Posted by MikePal
I know you have problems Gilly but it's mostly of your own doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Mike Pal,
Your intent on posting my picture was not benevolent and now you have been exposed for doxing you want to make some excuse. You did not ask me if it offended me and you did not ask for permission to post it.
I suppose now you will appeal once again to the moderator and see if you can have me expelled again.
In relation to this thread you were not mentioned by name but decided to crawl out of the woodwork yourself.
BTW What exactly inspired you to creep about the internet checking my name?
You are seriously delusional if you think you have the right to vet anything by anyboby before they post it on a public forum. How arrogant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
You bought this forward Gilly...it was a dead thread, but for some reason you like to play the victim a month after the fact.
Your poor little me syndrome, is not fitting of a man who served the community for 30 yrs.
Twisting in the wind again your name was never mentioned until you outed yourself, caught doxing red handed.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
Have you cried to the moderator yet little Mikey, time to find your big boy pants.
You obviously want to have the last word, be it rather childish, so I let you have it....:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Its pretty hard Michael to for you to explain why you decided to check my name out on the internet and then post my photograph and personal identifiers? Only you know why?Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
He not crying to anybody, he has manned up to his action and not chicken out like other sheep on this sight do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
If your personal info is out there complements of Toronto police service, whats the problem and what are you afraid of, and why not take it up with your former employers for releasing it?...
Firstly Canadaman your misinformed he has complained to the moderator and I know the specific thread and who complained with him. The Toronto Police did not publish my name on this forum and personal identifiers, I can PM you with that name if you wish.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
Secondly I was ordered to accompany a reporter for a large Daily Newspaper into a crime prone area for a story on community based policing. They took photographs for the story and those became the property of the newspaper. Thirty years later this newspaper decided to send all their archive photographs to the Toronto Library Board. The Library board decided to upload them onto the internet.
So NO I did not give that permission and NO the Toronto Police Service did not give their permission as its not their property.
What am I afraid of " Conservatives getting back into power" LOL Other than that not much.
Newsflash, you can be filmed in public its not against the law, and you have no control of where it ends up...lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Sorry that's not a newsflash Canadaman and it has nothing to do with why a member would creep a name on the internet and publish the resulting information. You seem to be OK with it as your posting your address all the time. LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
I posted my info once, not afraid to and not afraid of others doing so, I welcome a challenge when it presented to me. Maybe you should have told the reporter not to take your picture, but I'm sure your 15 mins of fame back then was more important...lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
If your info is out there what does it matter if its posted? Dont feel so untouchable now knowing that?...lmao
Don't let him twist this to make himself look like a victim...as I stated, Google sourced the picture from the Toronto Public Library who got it from the Toronto Metro Police Groups. it a PR photo...he could have autographed it and given to all the members of his fan club for all we know.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
And his indignation now is moot because when I posted it, his response was and I quote:
We won't say anything about confessing to a crime of stealing public property, after all it was 40 yrs ago :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Oh that might come sooner than later.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
With all the crap they are doing misguiding the public in so many ways.
We are supposed to be taking medical advice from our doctors but they are not allowed to speak or they will be punished lol. Only say what I want you to say or get lost .
Many people will have had enough of the lids very soon [emoji6].
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Ain't that the truth. He couldn't even buy a seat on the UNQuote:
Originally Posted by fishfood
Trudeau and his merry band of morons will be long gone in the not to far future. He can go back to being a ski instructor and drinking his mothers bong water. His days of teaching are done because of his past practices on the job...lol.
Sure hope you are right !!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
I think not telling a reporter not to take a photograph some 30 years ago would indicate I could tell the future and contemplate the internet's reach in 2020.LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
I have never felt untouchable at any stage in my life why would I being exposed to danger every day?
I have had several 15 minutes of fame in fact a follow up on this story using the same shots and a headline "Are Police officers worth $27,000.00 pa."
Oh now Michael your bringing into the equation the original doxing agent provocateur another of your Conservative friend's.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
So just because I made no comment at the time and have big boy pants, does not make it right for you to be creeping the internet ,something you have failed to explain.
Probably round about the time I am elevated to Sainthood.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishfood
Well reading the Buffalo Chronicle and believing its stories say's a lot about you. Totally bogus stories by right wing smear groups. Listed as a fake news source all over the internet. Easy to find https://www.newsguardtech.com/wp-con...hronicle-1.pdfQuote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
Who woke you up Rick.LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
Sorry , but not sorry - snowflake much???Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Never heard of it. I don't read fake news. Obviously you know more about fake news than the rest of us by posting their links...lol. Believing Trudeau is a great leader says all we need to know about you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
https://youtu.be/gxHk7kKxwrk
https://youtu.be/TmQxJGBTuR8
https://youtu.be/ItsGW1Nlm3c
I was hoping GW would wade in on this one. His comments are always insightful . Did he lose his internet connection, or a forum ban? lol.
Do you troll much.......Quote:
Originally Posted by line052
This shouldn't need to be said, but threats and invitations to violence or slander are all not permitted on the Forum. It is with regret that I close this thread; we should be vigilant to be kinder, especially at this time of year. Merry Christmas.