Not sure how many hunt with 22 lr, found this video not long ago as I was impressed by the results. Enjoy
https://youtu.be/-DzLQGv-w5M
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Not sure how many hunt with 22 lr, found this video not long ago as I was impressed by the results. Enjoy
https://youtu.be/-DzLQGv-w5M
That way pretty interesting...... with so much penetration you would think raccoons would be easier to kill....
Thanks for sharing
The wee .22 seems to defy physics in a big way. How many other calibers out there can maintain a stable flight after losing speed and becoming subsonic. The 22 is as close to a round ball as it gets without actually being a round ball and they fly straight and hit rather hard given what they are.
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I recall a shot I made with a .22LR back in my youth. I was using a .22 savage semi-automatic. I was firing at a groundhog standing up right in front of its hole. The field behind it had a low upward slope. I didn't actually measure the range, but the groundhog was at least a couple hundred yards away. I was working with a peep sight. I aimed high above the groundhog, and watched the dust puffs rise behind as I walked my shoots down to the groundhog. It was third or forth shoot that found the mark, and the chuck dropped. I ventured over to check things out. The groundhog had fall back into the hole. I was quite surprised, the wound hole was in the groundhog chest, not its head, and it hadn't disappeared down the hole. My normal range for taking groundhogs was between 25 and 50 yards, and if I wanted them to stay above ground, it had to be a head shot. Needless to say that long shot was something of a puzzlement.
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People consider the 22LR a child's toy, it is not, it can be very dangerous.
When I was younger I knew a guy who as a young man shot 2 bull moose with a 22LR on his trap line. He said that head shots did not penetrate, but the heart shots punched right through.
I watched a couple guys shooting Kudu cows in South Africa with .22lr from about 50 yards away in the dark.
No scope, open sights and moon light.
He also carrys a Walter
22lr pistol and has finished off quite a few animals, One being a big male baboon that had ahold of his leg when he finally killed it.
Lol they are a different breed over there
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.22LR at 60-80 yards is a buddys go too coyote rifle. I cannot seem to kill a thing with it unless I’m standing beside the animal.
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I use it on cows but you need solids to penetrate the skull not hollow points.
The .22 is what my dad taught me to shoot distance and with the right rifle and ammo (those CCI minimags and Stingers are good, thunderbolts too) the 6" red balloons we staked would pop nicely at 200 yards and a starling (or gopher at a relative out wests farm) inside 100 yards was easy IF they held still long enough. So many times you would get that 3 seconds to get on target and pull the trigger and at 2.9 seconds they were moving out of the location the bullet was headed... oh a perfect shot ... but the target is no longer there!
Using a scope on both, with the Ruger 10/22 with any ammo a head shot at 50 yards on starlings or gophers (long grass, often only could see the head) was doable, the Remington 552 was alot more forgiving on the ammo and 75 yards was good and if the bigger scope was on and sighted well and the target obliging 100 yards was done many times.
I tried using the Ruger fox/coyote hunting a few times... got rid of it, still have the old speedmaster.
Your ruger shot far better than mine, best group I could muster was 3.5 inches at 50 yards, my marlin left a jagged hole.Quote:
Originally Posted by mosquito
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There is really not a "solid" when you look at the 22LR. Every bullet except the new lead free green bullets are just copper washed lead with a different profile. The "solid" that you are referring to is actually just a soft lead bullet, still flattens out and mushrooms like crazy, unlike a solid from a centerfire. The only difference is that the hollow point fills with flesh and opens up much quicker, less penetration but more violent expansion. Dad bought a brick of 22 Long accidentally once, that 29gr bullet round nose bullet still killed groundhogs and raccoons but did not stop them like 22LR with a hollow point did. I use stingers for goats on the farm, even the big old ones, does not exit, which is perfect.Quote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
The 22 LR round is quite powerful to get the job done at distance for sure.
The problem is that not too many 22 LR gun platforms and ammo is made to be accurate enough & consistently at extended ranges. Even 50-75 yards is too much for some.
This being said: I do really love my old Canadian made Coeey Model 64 22 semi fed with CCI MiniMags.
My dad and myself did alot of experiments one day, when we were shooting about 30 yards (don't remember the range) but I remember changing ammo and shooting a 50cent piece pattern suddenly went to a folded dollar bill and an inch to the 2pm position. They both had comparable scopes and the Remington centred might move a bit or size change but the Ruger really changed! After that we bought a variety but I don't remember which were the best on the Ruger anymore but I remember we tried Aquila, Thunderbolts, Stingers, minimags and a few others that day and some had little change others huge shifts and spreads. There are also firearms that just don't shoot worth sh** too though.:scream:Quote:
Originally Posted by oaknut
we were shooting pop cans up in moose camp a few years back at 300 yards, you would be surprised how accurate they are. I believe we held over around 4-5 ft, but we were all able to hit the cans relatively easy and consitantly once we figured out the hold over.
The problem is the lack of energy. I often plug my propane tanks at 100 yds with the .22 and all it does is scrape the paint off. HaHa.Quote:
Originally Posted by klums
But they hit fairly accurately, goes thru paper, so fun for plinking...but wouldn't hunt with them at that distance.
Long range rimfire is become a niche shooting sport. I know Twin City Rifle club near KW used to hold 300 yard rimfire matches.
Here's an article from the UK on long-distance rimfire. Not my idea of fun but it is interesting.
https://eley.co.uk/shooting-long-ran...etition-craze/
100 yard small game is not a problem, skin is also not as tough as a propane tank, at 100 yards the 40gr pill would still get in to the vitals of most game animals if shot broadside.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
I have a Tikka T1X that is good and accurate at 100 yards. Would not shoot anything at that distance with it though. Fine for 50 yards.
It’s got nothing left in the tank at 100 and there are so many better choices. A 2000-2400 FPS cast CF is superior in every way and not any more expensive.
If you want some fun grab a box of CCI Quiets. 740 FPS and just nothing but fun to target shoot with.
You would not shoot anything at 100 yards with a 22LR?Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Jack
I picked up a box of Remington CBee 720fps at a gun show for chit & giggles. Still have them, maybe this summer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Jack
They only have 27 ft/lb at 50 yds..might make it thru stiff cardboard. HaHa.
Impressive.......that is why I find it odd that no one uses a .22 on the Walking Dead to dispatch a walker - LOL
Cause it’s anemic and I have many better choices!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
It’s just so much fun! You will enjoy.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
You really don't need a 300 win mag to shoot a squirrel, but to each their own.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Jack
Speaking of squirrels I still have that Grey carcass for to test the ballistics of your new air rifle. I wanted to see how it penetrates at the 100yd. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
I'll take out these CBee's at the same time.
4 ft lbs of energy at the muzzle with the .177 airgun at 495fps and it kills rabbits no problem with a shot to the head.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
The high powered one is a 22 at 850fps, I actually ran them over the chronograph :), that is about 29 ft lbs of energy.
The energy of a 22LR high velocity at 100 yards, based on CCI is still 80 ft lbs, if I can kill rabbits with a .177 airgun pellet at the muzzle with a single shot there is nothing wrong with a 22LR at 100 yards.
Apparently the ideal range to sight in a 22LR is at 75 yards, just a bit of a drop at 100 and just high out to that range, but we used to sight in and kill groundhogs at 100 yards no problem.
I know that this .177 airgun killed squirrels in the big maple trees when I was a kid, made a nice snack with just the sound of the spring but the wind really gets to those pellets.
Used to tip over many groundhogs with 22lr at 100yds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
Still use 22lr for small game/pest control, as I'm not much of a shotgunner. No problems here killing them as well
Lots of great videos on you tube. Problem with high velocity is if it is just just over 1125 fps and if your 1260 fps at the muzzle.. it is not long before the sonic wave passes the projectile disrupting its flight pattern. Standard velocity for accuracy hands down.
For 100 yards I picked up the cci velocitor @ 1450 fps muzzle...1180fps at 100 yards. It seems tho that your gonna get flyers and that is the ethical if you dont want to miss it dilemma with 22 s. One video had a 5 llb chuck roast wrapped 4 times in denims pants and it was straight through and a wicked size wound channel.
https://youtu.be/njbVR5bICvQ
Yep, 100 yards on a groundhog is not a problem, but they do make it back to the hole, at least I don't have to collect them and dump them down the hole, they do it on their own.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
I don’t own a 300 win mag but sure let’s pop dirt pigs with a 22 and let them crawl down the hole to die a horrible death eh?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
I can’t even begin to guess how many ground hogs I’ve taken with a 22. If you hit them right they don’t move even an inch.
I also can tell you that many 22’s I’ve seen at the range that can’t even hold close to MOA. So far I can count them on one hand that can. 3 to 5 MOA is typical.
So taking a squirrel at 100 yards you are more apt to take a leg off or a nose.
50 yards is quite a different story.
You are claiming that a 22LR at 100 yards does not have enough energy to kill a squirrel or a groundhog, wow, the validity of your posts just took a huge hit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Jack
50 yards is nothing with a 22LR, I used to shoot cream of mushroom soup cans at 100 yards with a Cooey 82 and iron sights, we would also shoot starlings sitting in the pasture with a 22LR at 100 yards with a 2.5x scope, that rifle is a BSA Supersport Five. I never said run and get down the hole, I said they would make it down the hole, normally they are sitting on the mound of their hold and just turn and fall in to the hole. The 222 Rem is a lot more messy with a groundhog at 100 yards but saying the 22LR is not a valid groundhog gun at 100 yards is a joke.
Not worried about your perception of my credibility Fox.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
Don’t misquote me.
Accuracy on most 22 is absolute crap at 100 yards. Still has enough jam at 100 so no argument there but it is anemic compared to any other CF.
50 yards is another story and they are often sub MOA - why do you think that is?
how big is your kill zone on a chuck? Good enough for the shake of hand and inherent shyte typical 22 accuracy?
Come on guys get real.
I have a T1X in the basement that is absolutely one of the most accurate 22’s I have ever owned. Except for the odd flyer.... what happens there? Missing leg, wounded chuck, half shot up squirrel?
Ammo consistency is also crap on rimfire.
At 100 yards I’d take any other CF in the safe. They all shoot sub moa at 100 with a decent hand load. Not tough to achieve.
I’ll also state that when I was a kid I couldn’t judge distance for crap. I doubt many of us could. I had a yard wheel around the house that worked ok.
Thats why they make so many semi's...lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Big Jack
Lol right on the pin!Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
I saw a video years ago of a guy who wrapped a turkey in denim and shot it from 300m away with a 22lr.
That was enough to convince me
It all depends on the rifle and the ammo. This guy was comparing regular 22 ammo and the 22 quiet ammo and you can see the impact shift.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0H6hVADwZA
The only 200 yards shots with a 22 on a coyote I would recommend..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoIURJC4d_s
.... out to 1000 yards?.. super impressive 22... .5" at 100 yards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8BnGrvnrww
Think you can hit all 7 at 30 yards?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbHMV8G9EQk