The Great Vaccine Scramble

Well, I was fortunate to be able to work from home today and avoid the commute in the storm, wife had the 24 hour news on all day and the big story was the European Union talking about restricting exports of the Pfizer vaccine.

at the risk of sounding like an American....I wonder if they remember who helped liberate Western Europe where the vaccine is currently being produced ? Who were those guys that stationed troops and tanks in Germany for decades and billions of dollars to kept the Soviet armies where they belonged. Mostly Americans, but British and Canadians too. Short memories I guess.

No need to be concerned, our lovely leader Trudeau says we are still on track....so don't worry he's got us covered.

He's got us covered alright just like the budget balanced itself we're deeper in debt than we have ever been and turdeau is still working on enlarging that hole.

Vaccines or not the new variants is already in Canada . Not sure about Pfizer but maderna said the cases increase 6fold from the African variant . Well it's already spreading thought Canada.

Yeah I guess it will help to some degree but when they say 6fold I'm guessing it could be like 40 percent effective. .

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Is this not 2021 where Liberals and the left expect the globe to be woke, hold hands and sing kumbaya?

JT and they failed to take care of Canadians by building pipeline East/West. Biden joins the campfire and immediately stabs us with a stake.

Now another botched file. Vaccines, and failing to take care of Canadians. Because they live in fantasy land, where everyone will hug and hold hands. Germany decided no, we too will take care of our own.

Remind me again, why anyone ever thought for a moment JT was a good choice.

Read this morning that the roll out of vaccines will be 6 months behind that of the US and Europe... Yup he's got us covered...

I can't believe there isn't more outrage from the Canadian public on this. I just read a story about a couple in BC married 55 years and died a few days apart in the hospital unable to see or say goodbye to each other, so many stories like this each passing day.

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Originally Posted by 73hunter

Well, I was fortunate to be able to work from home today and avoid the commute in the storm, wife had the 24 hour news on all day and the big story was the European Union talking about restricting exports of the Pfizer vaccine.

at the risk of sounding like an American....I wonder if they remember who helped liberate Western Europe where the vaccine is currently being produced ? Who were those guys that stationed troops and tanks in Germany for decades and billions of dollars to kept the Soviet armies where they belonged. Mostly Americans, but British and Canadians too. Short memories I guess.

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https://www.pfizer.com/products/pfiz...ites/kalamazoo

So the vaccine is produced in Michigan and Europe.

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Originally Posted by JBen

Is this not 2021 where Liberals and the left expect the globe to be woke, hold hands and sing kumbaya?

JT and they failed to take care of Canadians by building pipeline East/West. Biden joins the campfire and immediately stabs us with a stake.

Now another botched file. Vaccines, and failing to take care of Canadians. Because they live in fantasy land, where everyone will hug and hold hands. Germany decided no, we too will take care of our own.

Remind me again, why anyone ever thought for a moment JT was a good choice.

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They failed to protect "some Canadians" by not building the east/west pipelines, the good folk's in B.C. and Quebec did not want the pipelines along with a very large aboriginal population. As you know JB the strange thing in a democracy is that votes count.
In relation to Joe Biden he did not stab you with a stake he also acted on got "votes" that counted and it was a well publicized part of his campaign that you and others may have not cared to have paid any attention to as you may have believed The Disgraced Donald would be re elected.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

They failed to protect "some Canadians" by not building the east/west pipelines, the good folk's in B.C. and Quebec did not want the pipelines along with a very large aboriginal population. As you know JB the strange thing in a democracy is that votes count.
In relation to Joe Biden he did not stab you with a stake he also acted on got "votes" that counted and it was a well publicized part of his campaign that you and others may have not cared to have paid any attention to as you may have believed The Disgraced Donald would be re elected.

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We live in a democratic system where the people with the most votes do not run the country, just let that sink in for a moment.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

https://www.pfizer.com/products/pfiz...ites/kalamazoo

So the vaccine is produced in Michigan and Europe.

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Yes, produced in Michigan and Europe. The Michigan plant has 330 million Americans to vaccinate....I think Canada can realistically expect service from the Brussels plant.

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Originally Posted by Fox

We live in a democratic system where the people with the most votes do not run the country, just let that sink in for a moment.

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Seems to work for the winners all the time .LOL

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Originally Posted by 73hunter

Yes, produced in Michigan and Europe. The Michigan plant has 330 million Americans to vaccinate....I think Canada can realistically expect service from the Brussels plant.

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Are you sure about those numbers because the new president would disagree with you. From his own mouth just the other day, this is no joke.
https://youtu.be/KY6Sca16tko

Sadly this is whats Americans voted for...

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Originally Posted by canadaman30

Are you sure about those numbers because the new president would disagree with you. From his own mouth just the other day, this is no joke.
https://youtu.be/KY6Sca16tko

Sadly this is whats Americans voted for...

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LoL

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Originally Posted by canadaman30

Are you sure about those numbers because the new president would disagree with you. From his own mouth just the other day, this is no joke.
https://youtu.be/KY6Sca16tko

Sadly this is whats Americans voted for...

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Aww cut him a break lol....Can’t imagine taking on that job at his age. But I agree...this is the best they had ?

Again Gilroy. Cons took the most votes.
But with respect to Canada/Canadians the only place that seems to matter is Que/GTA. Shame you and other selfish people think about no one but ourselves ( See just Ontario and provincial elections) havent grasped yet why so much of Ontario and Canada, think so little of you (and us). We might even add the maritimes following the collapse of the fisheries. Not much love lost from them either. And on the topic of campfires, kumbayah, unity and that virtue signalling bs. Do you knot understand that polarization/division are arguably the single biggest and worst problem facing both countries?

Biden won because Trump, not because people love him or his policies. A monkey could have run against Trump and won. And time will tell, how much the US loves Biden after tens of thousands lose jobs. And you might want to think about where a lot of those votes are...Not in spoiled cities that think the world revolves around.

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Originally Posted by JBen

Again Gilroy. Cons took the most votes.
But with respect to Canada/Canadians the only place that seems to matter is Que/GTA. Shame you and other selfish people think about no one but ourselves ( See just Ontario and provincial elections) havent grasped yet why so much of Ontario and Canada, think so little of you

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Ain't that the truth.

Yea Biden can blame old age...what explains this. ??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sBxAvxr9fo

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Originally Posted by MikePal

Yea Biden can blame old age...what explains this. ??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sBxAvxr9fo

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Pot.....lol

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Originally Posted by impact

Pot.....lol

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And mental defect !!

It gets worse if that’s believable.

Good job voting or supporting these bumbling idiots. There was ample reason not to. But the usual crowds....

“Good” job, people are paying with their jobs, business and lives for your choice and his/theirs

https://torontosun.com/opinion/colum...ccine-plan-now

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Originally Posted by JBen

Cons took the most votes.

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With a multi party system we have in Canada total votes country wide means nothing.
Don't confuse our system with the US system of choosing a President.
The Cons had a big advantage in the west (less BC) where they got high majorities.
Your premise would give area's who have high chosen preferences the the advantage compared to other places which tend to have more varieties of preferences and where the votes tend to be more spread out amongst the different parties.

That is in response to those who say " Most Canadians voted for them or want him". Not true, most Canadians voted for the Cons.

But to your point, Why would you think I was confusing anything with the US, ( you have to take comments within the context that they are made) and how is that any different than a single region controlling politics because they have a high concentration of seats..........

At least if our system was based on votes ( proportional) one region like the GTA wouldn't control things, nor would there be as much regional favoritism, and vote buying.
See 2003-2017 provincially....Or Trudeau giving the west the shaft, but oh so worried about jobs in Que ( SNC) or Oshawa ( GM )

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Originally Posted by impact

Pot.....lol

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I love it when he doesn't have a script in front of him...HaHa.

One other thing I should have added, and it's a big Con with first past the post.

Woodsman, in your illustration "Your premise would give area's who have high chosen preferences the the advantage compared to other places which tend to have more varieties of preferences and where the votes tend to be more spread out amongst the different parties."

Aside from failings of vote buying, and regional favortism, as with the GTA/Que or even Harper pandering to Alberta when he was in power. That's a result of First Past Post. Its not about the votes and people, but seats. The other huge problem with First Past the Post is that it negates peoples votes. Take the GTA. Maybe 60% votd Liberal..The liberals win all the seats, but the 40% that voted Con, or NDP per your comment........Their votes count for nothing. And that leads to Apathy, and alienation. While it would never ever happen, it's entirely possible one party could receive 51% of the votes and win 100% of the seats. The other 49%...To bad, who cares ...

If votes actually mattered, pandering to certain regions, or groups wouldn't matter as much. Fine "Wynne", you bought the GTA. Thats still just 45% of the vote ( assuming every single person voted L)...The rest of the province voted Con....Fine JT, you have Quebec and the GTA in your pocket.

40% voted Lib
39% con or vice versa
18% NDP
03% Green

Everyone's vote matters and counts.

With respect to the West and oil and virtue signaling BS from lefties..who talk good games, about unity and kumbaya, morals, and caring about others and more..But never seem to be able to walk it. proof is in the pudding.

The West doesn't matter.
And so we see alienation, polarization and more. Not unlike why mid west and rust belt got behind, and is still behind Trump. Solidly.

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Originally Posted by JBen

It gets worse if that’s believable.

Good job voting or supporting these bumbling idiots. There was ample reason not to. But the usual crowds....

“Good” job, people are paying with their jobs, business and lives for your choice and his/theirs

https://torontosun.com/opinion/colum...ccine-plan-now

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Well I am glad your link brought us back onto the Topic of this Thread I do hope your actually read your own links, the answer is there.


"That was before the relationship between Canada and China began to sour several years ago and long before the relationship took a nose dive in December 2018. That’s when Canadian border agents detained Meng Wanzhou, the chief financial officer of Chinese tech giant Huawei, on an American extradition request"

The dictators in Beijing had engaged in economic warfare against various sectors of our economy for years. Why would the government not think that Chinese President Xi Jinping might pull the rug out from under us on a vaccine.

And that is what they did.

https://torontosun.com/opinion/colum...ccine-plan-now

Honestly not sure what your trying to say, or point out.

Are you suggesting I'm not smart enough to read an article I'm linking? That would be rather foolish wouldn't it. Of you. Or did you pause long enough to think about it?

Nor am I sure, what answer it is, that your referring to. The one that, illustrates just how inept he and his administration is. Only bumbling idiots, would trust China, at the best of times. And certainly not when, things are already tense. Nor when so much is at stake. As a result Canada now is caught badly, and citizens are paying the prices. For his choices, and yours. Steep prices.

So not only, is he proving yet again to be beyond foolish and by extension those like you who think he's doing a good job. .........

Which makes me wonder, do you think about your replies at all?H opefully you can think of something to clarify..that might help extricate yourself from the dung pile, you've unwittingly stepped into. Again, not unlike your hero. As the article said, who can defend him now.......


I don't get it. Are you really that naive?

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Originally Posted by JBen

Honestly not sure what your trying to say, or point out.

Are you suggesting I'm not smart enough to read an article I'm linking? That would be rather foolish wouldn't it. Of you. Or did you pause long enough to think about it?

Nor am I sure, what answer it is, that your referring to. The one that, illustrates just how inept he and his administration is. Only bumbling idiots, would trust China, at the best of times. And certainly not when, things are already tense. Nor when so much is at stake. As a result Canada now is caught badly, and citizens are paying the prices. For his choices, and yours. Steep prices.

So not only, is he proving yet again to be beyond foolish and by extension those like you who think he's doing a good job. .........

Which makes me wonder, do you think about your replies at all?H opefully you can think of something to clarify..that might help extricate yourself from the dung pile, you've unwittingly stepped into. Again, not unlike your hero. As the article said, who can defend him now.......


I don't get it. Are you really that naive?

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OK I will explain it slowly.... for you. This thread is about " The Great Vaccine Scramble" and YOUR link to the Toronto Sun explains some of the present difficulty we are seeing with the vaccine roll out in Canada. For us President Trump dumped us in a pile of chit with the Chinese
who have withheld supplies in retaliation as per your article.

" Only bumbling idiots, would trust China, at the best of times".

Well most of the World trades with China including the USA and they now have a massive trade agreement with the Pacific Rim. So using your
analogy, all of these countries populations are bumbling idiots.

Don't worry about Trump, your hero Biden has vaccination covered
https://youtu.be/KY6Sca16tko
What a moron.....next...lmao

Pulled this off FB...well done !! LOL..

https://i.imgur.com/RhLsdR1l.jpg

I have no idea how you ever passed the detective exams T. Did you grease someone’s pocket?

Let me “spell it out for you. Very slowly”.

Count with me.

1) Trump in no way shape of form has squat to do with stupidly negotiating with China and only China.

you only have to count to 1. Is that sloooooooooooow enough for you.

2)
Long after she was arrested for extraditions. And they had arrested two of ours and blah blah blah.

Jesus your dense. And I really struggle now how you ever solved squat if you can’t grasp not only how stupid that was. But also a timeline Mr Detective.

count with me Gilroy
1....................2
hope that’s slow enough for you.

The spread of the variants, and a person that has 2 variants at the same time...
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=3624511144264608