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    It gets worse if that’s believable.

    Good job voting or supporting these bumbling idiots. There was ample reason not to. But the usual crowds....

    “Good” job, people are paying with their jobs, business and lives for your choice and his/theirs

    https://torontosun.com/opinion/colum...ccine-plan-now
    Last edited by JBen; January 27th, 2021 at 06:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBen View Post
    Cons took the most votes.
    With a multi party system we have in Canada total votes country wide means nothing.
    Don't confuse our system with the US system of choosing a President.
    The Cons had a big advantage in the west (less BC) where they got high majorities.
    Your premise would give area's who have high chosen preferences the the advantage compared to other places which tend to have more varieties of preferences and where the votes tend to be more spread out amongst the different parties.




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    That is in response to those who say " Most Canadians voted for them or want him". Not true, most Canadians voted for the Cons.

    But to your point, Why would you think I was confusing anything with the US, ( you have to take comments within the context that they are made) and how is that any different than a single region controlling politics because they have a high concentration of seats..........

    At least if our system was based on votes ( proportional) one region like the GTA wouldn't control things, nor would there be as much regional favoritism, and vote buying.
    See 2003-2017 provincially....Or Trudeau giving the west the shaft, but oh so worried about jobs in Que ( SNC) or Oshawa ( GM )
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    Quote Originally Posted by impact View Post
    Pot.....lol
    I love it when he doesn't have a script in front of him...HaHa.

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    One other thing I should have added, and it's a big Con with first past the post.

    Woodsman, in your illustration "Your premise would give area's who have high chosen preferences the the advantage compared to other places which tend to have more varieties of preferences and where the votes tend to be more spread out amongst the different parties."

    Aside from failings of vote buying, and regional favortism, as with the GTA/Que or even Harper pandering to Alberta when he was in power. That's a result of First Past Post. Its not about the votes and people, but seats. The other huge problem with First Past the Post is that it negates peoples votes. Take the GTA. Maybe 60% votd Liberal..The liberals win all the seats, but the 40% that voted Con, or NDP per your comment........Their votes count for nothing. And that leads to Apathy, and alienation. While it would never ever happen, it's entirely possible one party could receive 51% of the votes and win 100% of the seats. The other 49%...To bad, who cares ...

    If votes actually mattered, pandering to certain regions, or groups wouldn't matter as much. Fine "Wynne", you bought the GTA. Thats still just 45% of the vote ( assuming every single person voted L)...The rest of the province voted Con....Fine JT, you have Quebec and the GTA in your pocket.

    40% voted Lib
    39% con or vice versa
    18% NDP
    03% Green

    Everyone's vote matters and counts.

    With respect to the West and oil and virtue signaling BS from lefties..who talk good games, about unity and kumbaya, morals, and caring about others and more..But never seem to be able to walk it. proof is in the pudding.

    The West doesn't matter.
    And so we see alienation, polarization and more. Not unlike why mid west and rust belt got behind, and is still behind Trump. Solidly.
    Last edited by JBen; January 27th, 2021 at 07:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBen View Post
    It gets worse if that’s believable.

    Good job voting or supporting these bumbling idiots. There was ample reason not to. But the usual crowds....

    “Good” job, people are paying with their jobs, business and lives for your choice and his/theirs

    https://torontosun.com/opinion/colum...ccine-plan-now
    Well I am glad your link brought us back onto the Topic of this Thread I do hope your actually read your own links, the answer is there.


    "That was before the relationship between Canada and China began to sour several years ago and long before the relationship took a nose dive in December 2018. That’s when Canadian border agents detained Meng Wanzhou, the chief financial officer of Chinese tech giant Huawei, on an American extradition request"

    The dictators in Beijing had engaged in economic warfare against various sectors of our economy for years. Why would the government not think that Chinese President Xi Jinping might pull the rug out from under us on a vaccine.

    And that is what they did.

    https://torontosun.com/opinion/colum...ccine-plan-now

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    Honestly not sure what your trying to say, or point out.

    Are you suggesting I'm not smart enough to read an article I'm linking? That would be rather foolish wouldn't it. Of you. Or did you pause long enough to think about it?

    Nor am I sure, what answer it is, that your referring to. The one that, illustrates just how inept he and his administration is. Only bumbling idiots, would trust China, at the best of times. And certainly not when, things are already tense. Nor when so much is at stake. As a result Canada now is caught badly, and citizens are paying the prices. For his choices, and yours. Steep prices.

    So not only, is he proving yet again to be beyond foolish and by extension those like you who think he's doing a good job. .........

    Which makes me wonder, do you think about your replies at all?H opefully you can think of something to clarify..that might help extricate yourself from the dung pile, you've unwittingly stepped into. Again, not unlike your hero. As the article said, who can defend him now.......


    I don't get it. Are you really that naive?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBen View Post
    Honestly not sure what your trying to say, or point out.

    Are you suggesting I'm not smart enough to read an article I'm linking? That would be rather foolish wouldn't it. Of you. Or did you pause long enough to think about it?

    Nor am I sure, what answer it is, that your referring to. The one that, illustrates just how inept he and his administration is. Only bumbling idiots, would trust China, at the best of times. And certainly not when, things are already tense. Nor when so much is at stake. As a result Canada now is caught badly, and citizens are paying the prices. For his choices, and yours. Steep prices.

    So not only, is he proving yet again to be beyond foolish and by extension those like you who think he's doing a good job. .........

    Which makes me wonder, do you think about your replies at all?H opefully you can think of something to clarify..that might help extricate yourself from the dung pile, you've unwittingly stepped into. Again, not unlike your hero. As the article said, who can defend him now.......


    I don't get it. Are you really that naive?
    OK I will explain it slowly.... for you. This thread is about " The Great Vaccine Scramble" and YOUR link to the Toronto Sun explains some of the present difficulty we are seeing with the vaccine roll out in Canada. For us President Trump dumped us in a pile of chit with the Chinese
    who have withheld supplies in retaliation as per your article.

    " Only bumbling idiots, would trust China, at the best of times".

    Well most of the World trades with China including the USA and they now have a massive trade agreement with the Pacific Rim. So using your
    analogy, all of these countries populations are bumbling idiots.

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    Don't worry about Trump, your hero Biden has vaccination covered

    What a moron.....next...lmao

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    Pulled this off FB...well done !! LOL..


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