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I never watch or listen to CBC, this just popped up on Facebook. Convenient news bomb on the friday of a long weekend?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzcJ_xxayhw
I never watch or listen to CBC, this just popped up on Facebook. Convenient news bomb on the friday of a long weekend?
Our money doesn’t matter to our government anymore, it’s about throwing money at any group who will take it and pledge support
My question is..Why is it the taxpayer's responsibility to provide the Indigenous with clean drinking water?
If you build a house outside any city in Ontario, it's YOUR responsibility to pay the $15 K to have a well dug to access water. If the water you get is tainted..it's your problem to install various filters etc to make it drinkable.
Or you move.....
For a nation of people that preaches they live off the land...why do they continue to live in an area for 20+ yrs where the water is tainted...move !!
I guess in all fairness, all costs associated with having clean drinking water should be a right of ALL Canadians...just submit the bills and wait for them to reimburse you HaHa..
I think the need for clean drinking water is a real one.
The problem is how much of the 8 billion will actually be spent on water?
If you want to fix a First Nation problem you don't give them the money, you go out and pay to get the work done while closely overseeing and monitoring the whole process.
Harper was on to something with mother Theresa in Attawapiskat.
I'm guessing it's because it is on land that was designated by the government for a reserve. If there is not good water on the government provided land, I would think that it is the government's responsibility to correct the issue, either through purification or providing another area for them to live that meets the needs.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
Agree 100%. Instead of just cutting them a cheque, the government should step in to have the work done. It would likely be overpriced if they contracted the job, but at least it would get done, and not become the continual money pit that the current situation is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deer Hunter
I also believe that there should be some sort of accountability for the money being designated for various uses. Somebody needs to ensure the money is being used as designated.
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Interesting graphic from Indigenous Services Canada.
As for MikePal’s comments, we, the collective people of Canada, elected the previous governments who put them on the reservations. So access to clean water, which is fundamental human right, seems like a good enough reason.
That isn't the goal or concern of this government though... Harper put in basic accounting and disclosure requirements and the Libs took it out.Quote:
Originally Posted by delmer
https://nationalpost.com/news/politi...at-end-of-2015
It's a free for all on the money and spending in Ottawa and the crooked chiefs (NOT ALL) are having a field day it seems incase they have to actually be open and disclose spending in the future.
They should have clean water available of course but the whole Indian Act is a relic of the late 1800's, I think same year as Custer's Last Stand so over 140 years ago. The race based sh** should go, make the reserves corporations and accounting required. Close reserves or let people move if they want, just dumping them on a ghetto like reserve is a waste of money and an insult. We have Chinatown and Greek town in Canada's largest city and "Indian town" in some run down bush with poor housing and dirty water.... all based on race. Scrap the Indian act and help those that need help, the bureaucracy and idiocy need to get flushed in the septic!
Here’s something you don’t see everyday, I agree with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by mosquito
I'll guarantee you, 10 years from now the money will have been squandered with no accounting and no bread crumb trail to see where it went. And to top it off, the problem will still be there.
You mean like the $Billions they've already received and still live in squalid conditions for the lack of a can of paint and some household cleaners. :) .....at least that's the image that is portrayed on CBC when they want sympathy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fisherman
Nailed it. If they even began to clean up around their homes and yard and make it look like something other than a dump.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
I read someplace in all time up to 2020 it ads up to 7 trillion may be adjusted to current value not sure
Ya it was run in the Calgary Sun a while back, the numbers are just staggering. How the Gov't could even think to just throw money at them and expect improvements over the years is nuts.Quote:
Originally Posted by js4fn
Yup and all that money for only 1.7 million Indigenous in Canada.....many living in small 'reserves' of only 5-7 homes.Quote:
Originally Posted by js4fn
Some stories of the challenges they face...
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When Lytton's aging Nickeyeah Creek water facility could no longer provide safe drinking water, they submitted an upgrade proposal, as required, to Indigenous and Northern Affairs Canada, the federal department previously responsible for services in Indigenous communities.
Their proposal was rejected for not being "cost effective".
An engineering firm had quoted Lytton C$1.3m for the work - too much, the department decided, for a facility that only serviced six houses.
They decided to build a new facility altogether. The facility was designed to be smaller, low on maintenance and to fit inside a shipping container - all for the price of C$500,000.
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When Lytton's reserves were created, the government assigned them a patchwork of 56 parcels of land, some more than 100 km (62 miles) apart. Many of these reserves have fewer than five houses.
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Ted Philips, 48, lives on a reserve with only three houses. He's been drinking untreated water his whole life.
"We were told it wasn't good but we drank it regardless," says Philips.
"We were just never told or we never knew any better."
Warren and RES'EAU had to come up with a new solution to bring clean water to Lytton's more isolated houses, such as Philips'.
They developed a Point-of-Entry (PoE) system that treats water as it enters each home and costs C$10,000 per unit. So far, five homes have been fitted with one.
Wait, did they say compensate people??
How does that actually fix the source of the problem? Why aren't they using that money to rather put up water treatment plants????
Well not gonna chime in on the politics/optics but it will likely mean significant $$$/work for me as I regularly partner with FN owned companies to build plants and/or do upgrades and maintenance at remote communities.
Yup so far the compensation and distribution will amount to $10K into each member whose been living with water issues..that could mean every member of the household. ..Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkB
Do you think they'll combine the money and hire someone to fix the problem themselves ..HaHa..
note: Actually the reserves are supposed to, by contractual arrangement, pay 20% of the cost of water infrastructure projects. Few do, citing insolvency.
The way is sounds, the Liberals will be throwing a lot of money into the coffers at INAC (Indigenous and Northern Affairs Canada) and the lucrative contracts will flow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Species8472
The way PWGSC works, if your company is owned by an Indigenous Women you could be making $millions in the next few years. :)
Been that way for a while. The end of the day I still get the work. Partner with a FN general and they sub the work out and take a cut.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
Been doing it for 15 or 20 years now. Nothing new.