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An unbiased opinion and voice of reason and common sense from a professional with the credentials to back it up.
https://torontosun.com/opinion/colum...t-our-response
Yet people will gleefully line up for their boosters and continue doing what they're told, thinking it makes any sort of difference. Compliance is what got us into this mess in the first place.
Friendly reminder we are now in day 614 of "15 days to slow the spread"
ofcourse..they dont care if they work, they just want us all to have to take it yearly....just like your cell phone or netflix subscription.... we need to subscribe our bodies to this experiment in exchange for our god given freedoms...brutal...people need to say enough is enough or nothing will change
That doctor is playing both sides of the fence in ensuring that Big Pharma's experimental products continue to be injected all the while lamenting the ills of the general population. The most vulnerable were abandoned right from the onset by the governments. Therapeutics were and still are available to combat covid. Why is there no discussion on this subject?
He's right, save the vaccines for the most vulnerable (immunocompromised, comorbidity sufferers) the treat the symptoms of those that get the virus from becoming severely sick.
Thats the idea behind the 'Covid Pill', give it as soon as the symptoms become a bit too much to handle. They've proven to provide 50% chance it'll stop you from getting so sick you need a hospital.
Hospitals have got their drug therapy treatments down pretty good now and few require ICU beds.
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Merck announced preliminary results in September showing its drug cut hospitalizations and deaths by half among patients with early COVID-19 symptoms. The results haven't yet been peer reviewed or published in a scientific journal.
The company also didn't disclose details on molnupiravir's side effects, except to say that rates of those problems were similar between people who got the drug and those who received dummy pills.
Molnupiravir was initially studied as a potential flu therapy with funding from the U.S. government. Last year, researchers at Emory University in Atlanta, Ga., decided to repurpose the drug as a potential COVID-19 treatment. They then licensed the drug to Ridgeback and partner Merck.
The drug targets an enzyme the coronavirus uses to reproduce itself, inserting errors into its genetic code that slow its ability to spread and take over human cells. That genetic activity has led some independent experts to question whether the drug could potentially cause mutations leading to birth defects or tumours.
Not everyone gleefully lines up. Again guys, stop contrasting like this is so black and white.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushwhacker
It is a spectrum of opinions ... and on the ends of the spectrum you have the two groups you characterize ... those strongly opposed and those strongly for.
In between are people that recognize the risk of the vaccine, and for whatever reason, following some critical thinking, decided to take the vaccine.
Stop painting everyone that took the vaccine as dump robotic sheep. The majority thought hard about this, and took a decision.
Just because they concluded with a decision that was different than yours, doesn't mean they are gleeful, and just follow orders.
Yet your language (name-calling) in many, many past posts about those that decline, after "critical thinking", not to get the vaccine ....prove that you hold them all with the same distaste...
Mike, honestly, stop your chest pounding ... you continuously attack me, just to keep a stupid argument going.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
I honestly think, all this is about is your ego ... you just can't stand to be corrected in an argument ... you seem to get off
telling me that "I miss the point", that "I'm a sheep", blah, blah, blah ... all it is, is bully tactics. You have a superiority complex (as far as I'm concerned).
Grow up man. Get off your high horse ... and honestly, stop acting like your some kind of king here. YOU'RE NOT ... you're just a guy
that types stuff on a forum ... period. You are doing nothing to help anyone.
I've said from the beginning that getting the vaccine should be a choice!
You just despise me for challenging some of the stupid data that you present ... which has no regard for the per capita statistics.
You post BS ... I'm going to make it straight to everyone that it is BS. You say COVID is nothing but sniffles ... well I object, based on REAL
information. I'm standing up to your BS arguments ... COVID is not normal.
Note, there are several people messaging me, and thanking me for standing up to bullies like you.
That's all you are ... a bully, who ends almost every message with "haha" like this is some kind of game.
feel better ? ..HaHa...
Grow up.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
I never said everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkB
Whether gleeful or reluctant, the complicity (and complacency) are the same.
Well, I do think there is a tendency in this group to polarize into two groups.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushwhacker
It's an us vs. them scenario ... and God forbid you have a different opinion, especially with a few
on this blog.
I disagree if you think anyone who took the vaccine is complacent.
We trade off the risks ... we come to different conclusions ... that is fine.
If we do our homework, trust certain sources of information (you trust yours, I trust mine) ... then that is not complacency at all.
That is diligence.
Or did you mean to say compliance?
No I don’t mean just anyone. After all the cases of side effects and all the stuff coming out now, and the pathetic attempts at cover ups, anyone who is coerced into a booster is complicit in the lie.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkB
If it’s a result of critical thinking to arrive at that decision that’s different. But most people do not think critically. And thinking critically would tend to have people avoid it. Especially with all the coercion. I would think people would refuse boosters based on the lies and bullying on principle alone.
Many people who were vaccinated, I’d wager the majority, had a very blasé attitude towards the vaccine. They got seduced by promises of freedom and a return to normal when those things have not been granted to them. Or they said “what’s the big deal, the experts say it’s fine”
That’s complacency. And it’s the main reason we are in this mess...from a lack of critical thinking.
Almost everyone I talk to who took the vaccine had a concern about the safety of the vaccine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushwhacker
They chose to take it because they studied information which indicated the benefits outweighed the risk.
The only thing we couldn't really have an idea of is the vaccine effectiveness over time. It would be a pity after taking
the vaccine, if it means we are back to square one after 6 or 12 months ... which is what I think a lot of people are focusing
on right now. We are carefully observing the effectiveness over time ... and I believe this is why there is hesitancy to get a booster
shot ... the booster shot is somewhat of an admission that the vaccine may not be as effective as we originally assumed, so let's
sit and wait and watch what happens before we make that decision.
Now, in terms of side effects caused by the vaccine ... honestly, I don't know of a single person close to me that has had an issue.
My wife heard from one of her clients that someone they know got severely ill or died soon after taking the vaccine ... but that's it, and it's
three steps removed from me ... so who knows what happened. So, in terms of "all the bad things about the vaccine", we just don't see
physical evidence of it. For example, my work is 90% vaccinated ... 1600 employees. I've not heard of one person who had an adverse effect.
Yet, I do know people who have died or got severely ill from COVID-19.
In the end, I think as much as you don't trust the government numbers ... well, I don't trust the data you guys publish, because I don't know
where it comes from ... and everything is magnified, twisted, etc. to simply prove a point ... very hard to get real info these days, on either side of the spectrum.
....no..and you can't make me .HaHa...Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkB
Just want to quote this to make sure this response cannot be edited in the future, so people can decide for themselvesQuote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
what kind of a person you really are.
I hope you don't trust the government...Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkB
From a whistleblower. Canadian Immunization Registry. An awful lot of data here:
Attachment 42751
It’s the “Reserved for future use” lines that's perhaps the most worrisome.
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Originally Posted by MarkB
Mark, again I see you assuming things without evidence. You claim that most people thought hard about it and/or used critical thinking before deciding to take the jab. How do you know this? I would counter that by saying the decision most made was brought on by coercion from government officials and employers stating that if you want to keep your job, enter a business, go to a sports facility, cross borders, go to a concert or restaurant etc, then in reality you really had not much choice left about getting the jab. So my question to you is if none of these freedom restricting measures had been taken what percentage of the population would actually have willingly taken the shot initially, and now with all the evidence of severe adverse effects would still gladly line up for the boosters?
Your right Smitty....In Canada, on average, only 40% of adults get the annual flu shot. Everyone knows the risks and results of Flu...yet 'critical thinking' sees 60% of the population do NOT get the Flu shot annually.Quote:
Originally Posted by smitty55
Thru Pandemic hysteria, due to intense media efforts to instill fear, that number only climbed to about 60% of the population who were willing to stand in line to get the Covid vaccination. Then in mid-summer, it stalled, no more line ups.
It's taken months since then thru mandatory restrictions and vaccination requirements..ie: coercion, to inch up the numbers to about 78% where it is today.
Statistically/Historically..without Government intervention..there will be less than 50% willing to stand in line again for a ''Booster'. Seeing that it's still the same vaccine and is only good for 4-6 months, it'll be a hard sale. It'll go back to the same rate as the annual flu shot with 80% of those over 70 getting the shot...and 40% of the others.
You can look at it like this , 'Critical Thinking' in instrumental in getting 50 % vaccinated and 50% to NOT getting vaccines. :)
see Key Note: https://www.canada.ca/en/public-heal...za-survey.html
see Data by age group: https://covid19tracker.ca/vaccinationtracker.html
Just look back to the percent of population that got it before mandates began.Quote:
Originally Posted by smitty55
The vaccinated are far closer to normal than the anti-vaxxers. Travel, sporting events, concerts, movies, restaurant dining, etc. are all available to us. Meanwhile, anti-vaxxers are going on unpaid leave, losing their jobs, being thrown of universities and banned from public gatherings. Even though they are excluded from places where the risk of transmission is higher the not fully-vaccinated represent 80% of current COVID ICU cases but less than 15% of the general population.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushwhacker
Very soon the vaccinated will be losing their status unless they submit to a 3rd booster shot, and a fourth, and a fifth.
Trading fundamental liberties for a jab. How intelligent is that?
https://i.imgur.com/6GADDBY.jpg
Originally the vaccine was to prevent infection and transmission of the Virus
Well that failed so the Dr.s changed their position, Ohh well at least it prevents you from getting sick..Quote:
....On Nov. 18, Pfizer released updated results of its Phase 3 clinical trials, suggesting the vaccine is 95 per cent effective at preventing COVID-19, a little over a week after releasing interim results showing the vaccine may be 90 per cent effective. Moderna announced on Nov. 16 that preliminary data from its ongoing Phase 3 clinical trial shows the vaccine is 94.5 per cent effective at preventing COVID-19. On Nov 23, Astra Zeneca announced their vaccine appeared to be 70 per cent effective against the novel coronavirus. On Jan 21, 2021 Johnson and Johnson announced their vaccine was 85% effective overall in preventing severe disease and demonstrated complete protection against COVID-19 related hospitalization and death as of day 28.
As of today ,in Ont, there are 168 hospitalized patients with Covid...104 (62%) are unvaccinated and 64 (38%) are vaccianted.
So it's failing to keep you from getting infected and failing to keep you from getting sick....
Seriously sick (ICU) patients are still, as it was in the beginning, mostly 60+ yr of age with underlying issues like autoimmune and commodity disease. Same as it was before the vaccine was available. With the waining efficacy of the vaccine with time, that number will continue to climb unless Boosters are provided to those people (which is what they are doing now).
As for the rest (under 60 /healthy) ...getting Booster will not change to outcome. The virus will always be with us, in both the fully vaxxed and the unvaxxed... .
I do not trust the government completely, no.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushwhacker
But I don't think the government is 100% lying to us either ... like that would be just stupid.
I try and match data with my personal experience, and first hand discussions with experienced
people.
I know this because EVERY SINGLE PERSON I have spoken to (literally over 100 people, at work, friends, family, etc), did think about taking the jab.Quote:
Originally Posted by smitty55
I actually DO NOT PERSONALLY KNOW a single person who just blindly and gleefully took the jab. THAT's HOW KNOW THIS, from my subset of data!
It is REAL, no third party involved, no trust required, it's my data!
So, your counter is incorrect ... I take for example my company that has 1600 people in GTA ... 90% took the vaccine without ANY policy or coercion!
You guys can speculate all you want ... but my data is real, and that's what I believe.
I've told you guys all numerous times, I don't just believe any data published, I rather confirm with REAL data that I acquire.
As you know Booster uptake has been slow ... and that exactly supports my point that even the majority of the vaccinated do think. We believe we have taken two shots, and that is enough, and now want to wait and see what happens. If we were all just blindly taking the first shots, then why aren't people just blindly taking Boosters??
104 / 1 million = 104 per millionQuote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
64 / 12 million = 5.3 per million
20x reduction in ICU severity for those that are vaccinated!! Vaccine is working, thank you for confirming that with the numbers you published!
Still stuck on grade 5 math. PER CAPITA MIKE, PER CAPITA ... you can do it!
The vaccines dont stop you from getting or transmitting it. Six family members of mine got covid, three where vaccinated, three were not. We do know for sure two of the vaccinated passed to others. Two were hospitalized, one was vaccinated one was not.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
Interesting data.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
For the two hospitalized, what was the age? Genuine question ... because this is what I call real data, not something from the press (CNN or Rebel news).
Was there any difference in the severity (did one get much more sick than other, or about the same)?
Vaxx for me is to simply reduce the severity of illness in the majority of people (ie. not 100% efficient, but >90%).
Well that helps to explains a lot...maybe you should hang with a better crowd because I trust data from Health Canada/Ont contributors WAY before I believe what one of your friends told you ..HaHa...yes I'm laughing at you...:)Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkB
That's pretty much what life is going to be like from here on in, segregating the vaccinated only keeps the transmission of the virus within the QR group so that's a good thing. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
I guess that's when you need to look at other age groups.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkB
I know people have taken the shot to travel go eat in side a restaurant ,just to get back to normal. Not because of their health because they wanted to do something they wanted to do.
For work even knowing they don't want it but the money made them do it . Because they can't afford to loose the high pay have and pay their bills.
That's not choice.
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That's what we have been seeing from the beginning family members infecting the entire family . With an effective shot they shouldn't all be getting covid.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
When they need to wear a mask to help reduce the chances of catching the virus is not an effective vaccine.
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No that's coercion...Quote:
Originally Posted by fishfood
Blah, blah, blah ... Mike, all I can say is, I'm sure happy you're not part of my crowd.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
I don't need hypocritical people with superiority complexes in my crowd.
And by the way, again you fail in English ... I didn't say, I don't believe any data published, I said I don't JUST believe any data published.
Big difference.
Now we on grade 5 math AND ENGLISH. Wow. You're more of a circus show every day! And I don't even need to pay for tickets for all
your comedy! LOL.
fishfood, well, I do agree with you ... but here's one important thing I found with everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishfood
There were for sure people who ultimately got the shot to get back to normal ... but that doesn't mean those people took the vaccine
like some kind of a compliant sheep. Everyone I spoke to had a moment where they questioned the safety of the vaccine, and weighed out
the risks, and in the end believed it was worth it.
Before there were any mandates ... my company had 90% compliance, not due to being forced, but because a lot of smart people decided to take the vaccine. My company is an Engineering Consultant ... and if you want to talk about a demographic that is skeptical by nature ... and questions everything, that is for sure Engineers. So, they did their homework, and decided to take the vaccine, appreciating the risks.
Also, again, I really would like you to think about this one ... the booster shot take up has been TERRIBLE ... no one really wants it. WHY? If vaxxed were mindless compliant sheep, we would have at least 70% booster uptake by now. We question, and right now, are not convinced of the need.
Less than 3 per cent of us have boosters. Mainly the old and most valnerable. Our government is still tip towing around them.
They do however show you the boosters given on the vaccine charts now.
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So fully vaxxed coach of the Ottawa Senators Jack Capuano contracted covid along with other members of the team. Most had mild symptoms but as he reported his symptoms were severe enough to send him to hospital and resulted in 4 days of seriously high fever. So much for the vaccine preventing serious symptoms like they would have you believe when they changed their narrative to cover up vaccine failures. Sure didn't prevent him from getting real sick.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
https://ottawasun.com/sports/hockey/...-19-experience
Must be a false narrative on seat belts too. A friend of mine was in a car crash. Everyone was wearing seat belts. The two passengers were not hurt but he was injured and had to spend a couple days in hospital.Quote:
Originally Posted by smitty55
Apples and oranges. You wear a seat belt for an hour a day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
The vax is in your body 24/7 and no getting rid of it.
Try harder....lol
One has to wonder without the vax if that 4 days of seriously high fever did not end up in death.Quote:
Originally Posted by smitty55
The principle remains the same. Just because something fails in a handful of instances does not mean that it is to be rejected entirely. The anti-vaxxer narrative is like saying that because the occasional plane crashes no planes should fly at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by impact
If a plane crashes there is an in depth investigation of why it occurred and remedial action is taken.Quote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
One only has to look at the recent 737 Max incident.
Again, a bad analogy. Your not very good at this. Better just stick to guns...lol
Adverse effects possibly related to COVID vaccinations are investigated as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by impact
https://health-infobase.canada.ca/co...accine-safety/
There has been as many vaccine adverse effects as there have been deaths...yet one is down played and the other is used to instill fear.. why is that ??
There have been a total of 25,206 reports (42.9 reports per 100,000 doses administered) up to and including November 12, 2021. Of the 25,206 reports, 6,069 were considered serious (10.3 reports per 100,000 doses administered). Overall, the rate of serious reports has remained low.
Ok, so you admit there is a problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
Great! Let's put a stop to it. Investigate and resume when it is safe to do so.
https://rumble.com/vpsxqj-grieving-father.html
Oh yeah they will investigate in depth From the shotQuote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
But
Then they try blame things like a fatal brain tumor on covid 19 deaths. Again they put all the resources into how safe the shots are but don't mind blaming fatal shootings on covid if the victim tested positive with the virus.
Any death within 28 days of the virus is classified as a covid 19 death. Haven't looked into it yet but I heard the actual numbers of covid death's could really only about 3 percent of its victims that didn't already have a condition.
The rest just get blamed for covid because they died within a month of testing positive. Even a poor old suicide can put you on the death list of covid. How sad is that adding suicides to covid death's.
Something we should be looking into
Heart attack's are almost 30 percent and our excess death's are up. Even Scotland is scratching their head over the mystery of this. Instead they push it on the younger kids as say it to stop transmission but they know it's not very good .
Why did they change the formula to tris?
We are seeing these things first hand and it gets ignored and can't talk about it .
https://youtu.be/gJ8t0qQ5R4I
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You don't ground every commercial flight when there's a crash. People can learn the risk and judge accordingly whether it's a commercial flight or a COVID vaccine.Quote:
Originally Posted by impact
Or one could just as easily wonder how much to believe their changed narrative that even though the vaccine doesn't doesn't work near as well as they said, how come his reaction was so serious when all they do is keep pushing that the vaccine will stop serious symptoms. In this particular case that's 10%, pretty high actually.Quote:
Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers
They did ground every commercial flight in the case of the 737 Max.Quote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
Again, what's your point?
Apples and oranges in regards to the vaccine.
As per the OP thread discussion here is another example of the vaccine not preventing testing positive twice in one month.
Bryan Adams bears witness to it as he is fully vaccinated.
MILAN — Canadian singer Bryan Adams said on Thursday he had tested positive for COVID-19 after flying into Italy and was going to hospital.
Adams, who is also a photographer, came to Milan to promote Pirelli’s 2022 calendar, which he had shot.
“Here I am, just arrived in Milano and I’ve tested positive for the second time in a month for Covid. So it’s off to hospital for me,” he said in a post on Instagram, showing a photo of himself wearing a mask, sat behind a table.
“Thanks for all your support,” he said.
Adams wrote in a post dated Oct. 31 that he had had COVID, but had not suffered any symptoms. He subsequently performed concerts in Las Vegas before heading to Italy.
https://nationalpost.com/pmn/enterta...lying-to-italy
The didn't ground every commercial flight in every aircraft just the one type. Similarly distribution of some vaccines were halted in the early days in response to concerns.Quote:
Originally Posted by impact
The point is the benefit of the vaccines far outweighs the risks.
Try telling that to the injured recipients of the jab and see if they agree with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
In the millions now and counting.
Total number of records retrieved: 2586558
http://vigiaccess.org/
Meanwhile many billions have received the vaccine and are enjoying protection from the virus. In Ontario, it brings the added benefits of being able to return to more normal activities. Everyone gets to make their choice and accept the consequences of their actions.Quote:
Originally Posted by impact
That's right. An acceptable level of casualties just as long that Big Pharma and its minions keep lining their pockets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
You do have a tendency of avoiding the subject.
If you think your protected from covid through vaccination, you are Sadly mistaken. Both mine and my wife's family have recently had covid, the number is at eight now. So far now three have been hospitalized, two vaccinated, one unvaccinated. The vaccinated both received and passed the virus to others. Across the board some of the vaccinated got very sick and some not as much. The same outcome for the unvaccinated. Every family member that was vaccinated has little to no faith in the vaccines. None will be getting boosters. If the vaccines did what they were supposed to do this would not have happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
Exactly!Quote:
Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers
An MP in Australia
As I said before it's about obedience that's what they want it's what it's been about that is the new world order obey or else.
https://youtu.be/-Y7ANQEasDQ
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Yes that is exactly what they have done...he's right, the 'progressives' Governments have not only allowed it but encouraged it.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishfood
By next year I hope they see that it was all for not...the virus will continue to spread amongst the largely now vaccinated population and see that nothing will stop it.
Thankful they have a Covid pill coming out to help those that have sever symptoms; the rest, bad colds, stay at home, get lots of bed rest...sort of like before :)
Did they get the Delta strain? Do they tell you what strain you got?Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
What we have now is a pandemic of people who refuse to admit they were lied to.
This is funny: https://mobile.twitter.com/ryanlongc...5Es1_&ref_url=
With those odds I'd gladly take a few scratch tickets.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
I have won on a few tickets that have many small winner's. Both last year and this year got the fast 100 only 22 thousand available . The 250 blast only 10 thousand and I claimed one in the spring.
I won 3 jackpots LoL.
One time on the 3rd ticket LoL.
Everyone's a winner hahaha.
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You have to use "common sense" when you discuss all this stuff. Eight relatives were all different, in age, smokers, none smokers, drinkers, already in bad health, taking other medications, other pre existing conditions.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
Should it surprise you their IMMUNE SYSTEMS all are different, not all will produce the same number of anti bodies.
As a poster asked you did they get the Delta a more severe form?
So one size does not fit all.
So my wife who got Delta, in May this year, was very bad and had a hard recovery,
She has not been recommended to get the vaccine yet by our Doctor, as her anti body counts are high right now. That is a result of her immune system kicking in and bringing them up the count of anti bodies. So by December she could get her first shot, but it may be unnecessary if her anti bodies and the right type of proteins are still in her system protecting her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOK6drNPNck
There was no mention of strain. Ages varied from 19-75. The 19 yr old was recently vaccinated in good health and was quite sick. The oldest were not effected as bad as some of the younger. Overall the vaccines showed no proof of protection as some of the vaccinated that got covid passed to others within the family. Some of the healthier and younger had worse effects. It become very obvious the vaccines did not do what they are supposed to do. If the vaccines worked less than half as many would have got covid. Out of the three hospitalizations which were all shot term two were vaxxed one was not ages varying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Well the vaccines need time to work and everybody's immune system is different. My son for instance was the only one home with his motherQuote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
at the onset of her sickness. He was not vaccinated at all. He helped her for several days by himself at close quarters and then my daughter flew in from Alberta and continued to help, she had got Covid, did not have any vaccines and had recovered by herself, her illness very mild compared to her mum.
Interesting thread: https://twitter.com/rubiconcapital_/...47604997693442
"The next step for vaccinated folks is the requirement to take an Omicron specific vaccine...."
Attachment 42846
FDA to streamline authorization of Omicron-specific vaccine (nypost.com)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushwhacker
No - but when 2 of the crash you ground all of that model. Or did you miss the whole 737max fiasco.Quote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
Similarly some vaccines were not recommended for people of specific age groups but vaccinations continued.Quote:
Originally Posted by werner.reiche
Sounds like the 'Verified' will now need two additional shots..the Booster and the Omicron specific vaccine ??Quote:
Originally Posted by werner.reiche
Haven't heard of anyone with the Omicron being hospitalized/death yet , but they're already talking restrictions and lockdowns...this really has become a three-ring circus.
Demanding that the entire population get a Booster before you will be 'Verified' will take till Easter...good luck with that.
Friendly reminder that Alec Baldwin killed more people than Omicron ;)
So we all better lock down again!
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