Only 8.5 million of the two billion trees promised by PM have been planted

All talk no action.....I was expecting to see Climate Barbie out in the hinterland in her designer Lee Valley gardening gloves planting all the trees the Village idiot had promised the Liberals would plant. But alas..

.05% of their commitment can hardly be calling even 'trying' .. HaHa..

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The federal government has planted less than half a per cent of the two billion trees it pledged to put in the ground across Canada by 2030, The Canadian Press has learned.

Figures obtained through an access to information request show 8.5 million trees had been planted as of mid-November, representing just over 0.4 per cent of what the Liberals have repeatedly promised.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau made the pledge during the 2019 election campaign, and the goal was repeated during the government's 2020 throne speech setting out policy objectives.

It asserts the two billion trees would help Canada meet its climate-change targets while creating roughly 4,300 new jobs.

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https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canad...far/ar-AARL3JW
https://i.imgur.com/V1RKJcPm.jpg

So how much is 2 billion trees?
Its 7174 square miles of trees planted on 10 foot centres. That's 4,591,368 acres.
(2,000,000,000 x 10 x 10) / (5280 * 5280 )

Do we have that much empty space in Canada a) which is not already forested, b) which could support the trees and c) located where people want trees?

Trudeaus green/ carbon plan in two words
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Trudeaus green/ carbon plan in two words
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More like Trudeau in two words….!

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Originally Posted by werner.reiche

Do we have that much empty space in Canada a) which is not already forested, b) which could support the trees and c) located where people want trees?

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I know around here ever since farm land prices jumped 10 fold...all those old farm fields that had become bush have been stripped back down. One bush, not far from here, with 600 acres of trees, was cleared to make way for corn fields. Took two years a whack of mature trees were cut, burned and hauled away. There is another one across the street, 200 acres just cleared.

Yea this was just another Liberal initiative that had very little to no hope of coming to fruition, but sold to a gullible public...like most Climate Change promises.

Even more hypocrisy;

I was given a wooden spoon for my ice cream at McDonald's the other day..no more plastic (recyclable) ones anymore.

I was wondering how many trees will be harvested to replace plastics spoons with wooden ones....

Have you tried to get some of these trees ? It’s nearly impossible

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Originally Posted by MikePal

I know around here ever since farm land prices jumped 10 fold...all those old farm fields that had become bush have been stripped back down. One bush, not far from here, with 600 acres of trees, was cleared to make way for corn fields. Took two years a whack of mature trees were cut, burned and hauled away. There is another one across the street, 200 acres just cleared.

Yea this was just another Liberal initiative that had very little to no hope of coming to fruition, but sold to a gullible public...like most Climate Change promises.

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I guess there's no bylaw in your area for clearing bush? My county has one. But then someone needs to complain. You can clear a plantation, but not natural forest.

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Originally Posted by cramadog2

I guess there's no bylaw in your area for clearing bush? My county has one. But then someone needs to complain. You can clear a plantation, but not natural forest.

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Zones agricultural, it's all farm land and being cleared by owner....

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I guess there's no bylaw in your area for clearing bush? My county has one. But then someone needs to complain. You can clear a plantation, but not natural forest.

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Most of ontario doesn't have tree cutting bylaws. But I think there would always be an exemption for re-clearing abandoned farmland. There are several areas west of Ottawa where the grown over farmland now has trees 40 feet tall - but they are usually junk - a lot of soft maple and balsam.

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Zones agricultural, it's all farm land and being cleared by owner....

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Same thing here in Chatham-Kent…

Well for you guys in your faulty time machines wearing your tin foil its not yet 2030. LOL

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Well for you guys in your faulty time machines wearing your tin foil its not yet 2030. LOL

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Your right it's 2021. Another excellent example of Trudeaus green plan on reducing plastics

https://youtu.be/mCv6n91ikB8

What does this post have to do with the posted thread Canadaman.

Looks like another trolling post your now famous for.

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What does this post have to do with the posted thread Canadaman.

Looks like another trolling post your now famous for.

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Just showing more Trudeau green policy failure. The planting of trees shows the same green policy failure.

this guy is synonomous with failure, lies and broken promises.....atleast the silly socked fake feminist drama teacher is consistent.. surfs up dude see ya in tofino!!

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Originally Posted by canadaman30

Just showing more Trudeau green policy failure. The planting of trees shows the same green policy failure.

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No failure they have until 2030, so counting on your big fingers...one, two...

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this guy is synonomous with failure, lies and broken promises.....atleast the silly socked fake feminist drama teacher is consistent.. surfs up dude see ya in tofino!!

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I think you guy might be a bigger failure, what's his name....LOL

https://globalnews.ca/video/8451245/...nflation-costs

So there he is wringing his hands again with no solutions. 35% of Canadians are worried. The rest have seen dramatic increases in the value of their homes, cottages, many Canadians are buying 2,3,4 investment places. The stock market is in an upwards tear.

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No failure they have until 2030, so counting on your big fingers...one, two...

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Yet another green policy failure as Trudeau promotes pollution investing Canadians money in coal power projects with the world's worst polluters. Pathetic is an understatement
https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&sourc...0hZK7de0x9mjEY

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Gilroy at only planting 8 million trees this year at that rate my grand kids will grow up and have grand kids. Even if Trudeau could manage 100 million trees a year it would take 20 years. Canada would have to import double the amount of seasonal workers from other countries. Technically it's impossible. The Math says so, something Trudeau has never grasped.

This hour has 22 minutes version

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZM8chH1TP/

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This hour has 22 minutes version

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZM8chH1TP/

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That's excellent...thanks for the link !!

Buddy of mine made a call and offered up a chunk of his land for the program, he is getting trees but at what cost?

Cost 1, brush hog the entire area of planting, makes sense.

Cost 2, sign a contract that covers permission for many years for others to enter your property to "check on" the trees.

3, you do not get to choose what trees you want, you are given a list of what will be planted.

4, they come in with a strong non selective herbicide and wipe out everything in the planting area.

The last one made me chuckle as the weeds, grasses and Tag Alder will process far more air than the trees being planted anyhow.

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Gilroy at only planting 8 million trees this year at that rate my grand kids will grow up and have grand kids. Even if Trudeau could manage 100 million trees a year it would take 20 years. Canada would have to import double the amount of seasonal workers from other countries. Technically it's impossible. The Math says so, something Trudeau has never grasped.

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Lets wait until the end of 2030 and see what total we have, if the Liberals are still in power they would have to face the music, if they are not then another government coming into power would cancel the programme like the Conservatives would do and they would take the blame.

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Buddy of mine made a call and offered up a chunk of his land for the program, he is getting trees but at what cost?

Cost 1, brush hog the entire area of planting, makes sense.

Cost 2, sign a contract that covers permission for many years for others to enter your property to "check on" the trees.

3, you do not get to choose what trees you want, you are given a list of what will be planted.

4, they come in with a strong non selective herbicide and wipe out everything in the planting area.

The last one made me chuckle as the weeds, grasses and Tag Alder will process far more air than the trees being planted anyhow.

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The Forest Management Tax Incentive Programme in Ontario basically makes this Federal programme a little redundant in relation to private land. Forestry companies usually re planted their own trees. So the only benefit I see in Ontario is Crown land being planted.
But that Crown land is also cut right now by private companies and they should be made to re plant.

If any Conservative politician in Ontario was paying attention to this stuff they could have pointed this out. But atlas they are all sleeping at the wheel. Can you blame the Liberals for the other side not being a watchdog................

If it was harper you would have done the math, just like its acceptable for Trudeau to sexually assault women you give another pass.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Lets wait until the end of 2030 and see what total we have, if the Liberals are still in power they would have to face the music, if they are not then another government coming into power would cancel the programme like the Conservatives would do and they would take the blame.

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If it was harper you would have done the math, just like its acceptable for Trudeau to sexually assault women you give another pass.

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Failures at Truth and failures at math, so that would make them incompetent, liars or corrupt ... or all or a combination of them. that's Justlied Trudeau.
"Wilson-Raybould says she's mad at herself now for having once thought Trudeau is an 'honest and good person, when, in truth, he would so casually lie to the public' "

Liberal "truth" / math in those 4 years it would add up to about an $80B lie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY3I2ewuxQ0

How out of touch are the Liberals..

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Natural Resources Minister Jonathan Wilkinson on Thursday launched a recruitment drive to find tree planters — including farmers, Indigenous communities and non-profit organizations — to plant millions of extra trees a year.

The move follows sharp criticism of delays in the tree-planting plan which was promised by the Prime Minister during the 2019 election campaign.

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They just gave every working-age Indigenous person $40K cash......you think they will get off the couch any time soon to plant trees ....HaHa..

How about making all those people who ripped off the taxpayers under the CERB program work off the money they stole...

Time to set up some Gulag Work camps for Tax cheats... :)

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

The Forest Management Tax Incentive Programme in Ontario basically makes this Federal programme a little redundant in relation to private land. Forestry companies usually re planted their own trees. So the only benefit I see in Ontario is Crown land being planted.
But that Crown land is also cut right now by private companies and they should be made to re plant.

If any Conservative politician in Ontario was paying attention to this stuff they could have pointed this out. But atlas they are all sleeping at the wheel. Can you blame the Liberals for the other side not being a watchdog................

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Truth of the matter is that ClearCase are relatively uncommon in Central and Southern Ontario. Our topography allows for selective three stage harvesting and natural regeneration. The idea around these parts is to mimic a wildfire when harvesting timber as that is what a healthy forest requires.

BC is all together different and there's no real way to log without strip cutting, Northern Ontario falls into the same category.

Head east of Quebec and almost everything logged is planted as it's all private land and mostly owned by 4 companies. Land that won't grow potatoes will grow spruce quite well.

The only real reason to plant trees in a forested area is to try and change the species that grow there.

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