https://www.foxnews.com/us/911-call-...-baby-dumpster - as I mentioned in another post - life has gotten cheap
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https://www.foxnews.com/us/911-call-...-baby-dumpster - as I mentioned in another post - life has gotten cheap
It's a "me" world we live in. A sad reality of the times.
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This is horrible but this is hardly new, luckily enough someone found the baby.
There have been safe-haven or "Baby Moses Laws" on the books in the US since 1999.
I think I saw on TV that those who are, unfortunately, choosing to get rid of an unwanted child can drop them off at Fire Halls in the US.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
Not sure if the safe haven law is us-wide. I was only aware of it being in Texas.
Learned something new....Quote:
Originally Posted by werner.reiche
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Currently, all 50 states have safe haven laws on the books, varying between the age limit, persons who may surrender a child, and circumstances required to relinquish an infant child. In most cases, parents can leave newborns in safe locations without having to disclose their identity or without being asked questions.
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To that end, approximately 16 States and Puerto Rico require parents to relinquish their infants only to a hospital, emergency medical services provider, or healthcare facility. In 27 States, fire stations also are designated as safe haven providers. Personnel at police stations or other law enforcement agencies may accept infants in
25 States.
Did not know about the safe heaven law-makes perfect sense.
At the other hand-leaving a child in a dumpster equals to attempted murder.
She should swing from the gallows for doing such a heinous act, especially when the are proper channels she could have used for giving up her child. What a poor excuse for a human being throwing a defenseless child in a dumpster.
Well I will tell you something - things like this happen because millions of babies are killed in abortion clinics many on the verge of being born (partial birth abortion) and society has allow this to happen so when a mother doesn't want the baby it isn't much of a jump from what is being done legally to what is done illegality - this is just one of the areas where society has stepped down into an evil gutter -
As Fox said, it is unfortunately not new, but what a disgusting excuse for a human, she should hang
Horrible. The result of a woke society. Bring back the nuclear family where "accidents" were taken care of lovingly.
I would argue Joe that this, the discarding of an unwanted child, happens because of the lack of abortion services. Young ladies being forced to go full term with a baby that was conceived accidentally or thru rape.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoePa
Not sure if I'd blame it on "woke society".Quote:
Originally Posted by impact
Its more a product of the collapsing western world. The same problem that gives us mass shootings.
What to blame the collapsing western world on? Not sure. Moral decline? Abandonment of religion? Decline of the nuclear family?
Unfortunately, there is no going back to the world as it was in the 1950's (or 1990's for that matter).
Of course I knew that this is where you were headed.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoePa
Don't worry though, a mother who gets pregnant too early or by rape will probably just be talked down to by people like you and forced into situations like this because abortion rights are turning back the clock 50 years.
Yes this is sick but it is also sick that a woman can be thrown in jail for seeking an abortion through rape but her assaulter gets a fine and gets to walk free, yes, this happens in the southern states.
I think you should cut Joe some slack. I believe your comments rather harsh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
I've read many of Joe's posts and don't find him to be the one to talk down to someone in need but rather offer supportive guidance. Joe seems like the kind of man who would give someone reasons not to murder their child rather than brush past and say nothing.
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Well let me say this Fox - millions of babies have been killed in abortion clinics - less than 1% were done because of rape - I have read articles written by nurses that at one time worked in such a clinic - many had to quit because of what they saw being done there - some couldn't sleep at night - I've seen pictures of dumpsters filled to the top with full term babies which are eventually chopped up and body parts sold for research - the pictures looked just like the pictures I've seen of the bodies in the concentration camps taken after the war - what is happening is that full term babies are being killed - some are actually born and left to die by themselves in a dark closet - it's one thing to have an abortion shortly after conception (in case of rape) and once a heart beat is evident -
We criticized the Germans why they let such inhuman killings happen- and they did nothing - I wonder if some time in the future people will look back to this time in history and wonder how we could allow such killings to happen - this is an issue people don't like to talk about - it's one of those out of sight out of mind things - don't talk about it -
A very sad act indeed!
History is a scary thing sometimes.....
Hard to say exactly when "society has stepped down into an evil gutter"?
http://internetbiblecollege.net/Less...And%20Rome.htm
https://nneandersphysiologicallitera...male-children/
https://www.savethechildren.in/other...cide-in-india/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infanticide
http://www.domesticviolenceservices....fanticide.html
Back in the early days did they learn from animals / nature?
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/s...onobos-animals
https://listverse.com/2016/03/28/10-...t-infanticide/
I agree except that this incident happened in New Mexico which does not have restrictive abortion laws.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
https://www.guttmacher.org/fact-shee...ion-new-mexico
After Texas imposed restrictive abortion laws health-care clinics in New Mexico were inundated with requests from Texans seeking the procedure.Quote:
New Mexico does not have any of the major types of abortion restrictions—such as waiting periods, mandated parental involvement or limitations on publicly funded abortions—often found in other states.
Yet he uses undertones of racism, sexism and homophobia in essentially every off topic post. - "They look familiar"Quote:
Originally Posted by oaknut
The instances of pregnancy by rape are excruciatingly rare, yet libs use these extremes to define their entire policies. These policies are big on feelings and emotionally driven rhetoric and not so big on the facts.
IMO abortion is murder, plain and simple. There is no way to wiggle around it. And attempting to justify it is no different than saying it's ok to kill for other reasons (race, political differences, poverty, fear, etc.).
It’s not about the reproductive rights of the woman, as her right to reproduce already occurred during the sex act.
It’s about the distinct, separate, innocent life of another human being.
Abortion is seen as no big deal, and thought of generally as just another form of contraception. It’s supposed to be empowering. It’s supposed to level the playing field between men and women, in an era where women are encouraged to be more masculine. They don’t tell you how difficult it is for women, and how much it has a lasting negative impact. That women who’ve had abortions have issues dealing with this tremendous guilt of killing their child (which is unnatural). That the more abortions a women has had, just like the more partners she’s had, severely decreases her chance of successful pair bonding and long-term relationships.
It’s sad that some babies are left (and especially horrible in this case for obvious reasons), but who knows what’s in store for that baby? A loving foster family (especially in an era where fertility problems are more and more common), a chance to experience the miracle of life, even if that life has some hard moments. There is something unique and divine in each of us and it’s nihilistic and destructive to believe otherwise. But this is par for the course in such a secular age.
More broadly, we should look at other relevant and pressing factors here.
Women have been sold a false bill of goods thanks to feminism. They sterilize their young, healthy wombs for half their lives with birth control, and engage in carefree casual sex with a host of strange men and then start panicking when the “baby rabies” hit around 30. They take all sorts of fertility drugs to compensate for the harsh reality of having squandered their prime child-bearing years, and become increasingly desperate to both settle down and conceive. It’s sad to see. Doctors who give honest advice are deemed "sexist" as women's cognitive dissonance prevents them from accepting this reality.
All the good guys would have likely already settled down with a healthy young woman, so they are running out of options. We see this thwarted motherly instinct find expression in the pathetic babying of pets, where little dogs are treated as children. This is mostly an urban phenomenon among professional women or those working in corporate environments, where the message to act tough and compete with men for success doesn’t jive with their suffocating natural desires.
Multiple studies have shown women today are not as happy or content as they once were. Jordan Peterson has done some great interviews with women that touch on this issue. The creator of Sex & the City regrets choosing her career over having children.
The sad thing with feminism is that in the end, men won. We got scantily clad women everywhere and tons of easy, commitment-free sex. Women are used and abused by men who treat them as nothing more than garbage cans for their bodily fluids. Online dating app messages or drunken texts at 3am are the extent of romance and commitment women now experience. Since there is no differentiation between the 2 sexes anymore (thanks, libs!) why hold the door open or pull out a chair or act with any sort of manners or chivalry towards a women? Especially when that can open you up to charges of sexual assault or sexism, etc. So young men are confused and walk on eggshells, while they stifle their own natural instincts to protect and provide. They check out altogether and retreat into an extended adolescence of video games and pornography, why would they try to impress or care for something which demonizes and undermines them? This cycle throws things out of balance and harms women.
Women and men are meant to compliment and complete one another, and despite the feminist trope of “a women needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle” it turns out that we actually need each other.
And before you accuse me of just blaming women, I am not. I am mainly blaming men for letting women down, as we are supposed to be the leaders and protectors who guide women. That's what women crave, despite the pressure from liberal feminism to claim otherwise. I am blaming politicians for incentivizing bad behaviour and contributing to the breakdown of the family. We’ve let society relax to the point of doing real harm to people. A healthy society isn’t just one where people are free to do whatever they want without consequence…that’s an anarchist’s fantasy
Wow Bushwhacker - great post with a lot of sense and telling like it is - Oaknut - thanks for the comment - Fox - not much to be gained by saying anything
I agree! Bushwhacker made excellent points.
I do believe that the source of all our problems can be found in the title of this thread with the single word "EVIL"
A little bit of research on its origin will tell you that it needs to be dealt with now.
That becomes the case in a world that is in an over population crisis, and government fear to take steps to regulate population numbers by imposing limits on procreations, instead they offer tax deduction for the number of children you can produce and child tax benefits to encourage people to have more children. Yes here, in the western hemisphere, some nations have birth rates that are very low, but across the world that is not the case, so the human surplus continues, and life keeps getting cheaper. It appears if you can enjoy global trade, then it seems to have open the door to the notion you can also get to enjoy world migration and immigration. JMHOQuote:
Originally Posted by JoePa
You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting,
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