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There are warnings about a Covid comeback this winter. I for one am concerned. Got my 5th shot last week along with a flu shot at the same time. Had Moderna after four Pfizer shots. Slight soreness the first day but that was it. Absoluty no other side effects, Wearing a mask in enclosed spaces and still washing my hands.
I am not going to take a chance as I am 73 years young and have some medical issues.
Let's stop this in it's tracks.
rodmcd
No losing sleep over it however as with all things in life it's about risk reduction to one's self and community. Its everyone's responsibility to mitigate their own risk and the risk to others. If we all do a little more it'll be manageable.
Exactly my position - well said.Quote:
Originally Posted by rodmcd
"Covid hospitalizations are almost double this time last year." quote CBC
Unless things really go bad, I've seen a few people with some pretty drastic bad effects from the shot. I avoid crowds, especially indoors, do my grocery shopping early before the rest wake up.
That's the tricky part.Quote:
Originally Posted by rodmcd
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I’m not worried, have had it twice and it was no worse than the flu. I am young and healthy though. Don’t like wading too deep into to these conversations lol usually someone ends up angry or offended. Not vaxxed I don’t plan to goes against my beliefs. If you want to get it that’s great, I worry about my health and don’t care what others decide. It’s their life not my business.
I’m more worried about the new one they are making.
Oh the Boston lab yeah hopefully they know what their doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by glen
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No, i have low probability to catching COVID--
I don't watch news [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]
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not worried about covid one bit - more worried about the pyschopath politicans imposing restrictions on us that shouldnt be, and more worried about the long term effects of this vax than covid...
Amen on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by kokes
I have had 3 shots and most of my friends have as well but most of them also caught Covid recently. This virus is not going away it will be around for ever just like the flu. No point in hiding we have to learn to live with it.
Make your personal choice for yourself on what to do, and leave others to make their own decisions instead of having them imposed on you. As Greatwhite says, it is here to stay, deal with it. If you feel unsafe, stay inside or away from others.
You do not have the right to make any persons medical decisions for them if you are not their POA or guardian.
John
No worried about it. I dont have any shots only got covid once
I'm more worried about lead at my job than I am about covid. I work in a metal recycling/ scrap plant. Sometimes deal with lead. Pick your battles lol.
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I am going to be 69 in a few days and I have had 3 shots. My wife is a couple years older than I am with a compromised immune system [ no shots] because of chemo and stem cell transplant over the last 3 years. We just started relaxing a bit over the last few months going out for Sunday breakfast and such. We are as of now in our fifth week of covid that I seemed to have brought home. We are coming along pretty good now but it really knocked us down. Fatigue and weakness were as bad or worse than the congestion.
I am masking up again and using the hand sanitizer where ever available. I do the shopping between 7:00 and 8:00 AM when stores are almost empty.
I will probably get the flu shot like I always do, but I think I've had enough of the covid shots. I don't trust that they are as safe as we are led to believe.
I'm no anti-vaxer so I don't judge those that have the faith.
On a side note my friend just had covid from Thanksgiving. His 80 plus year old mom also got it as well as everyone at the dinner. She also thought it would be a death sentence she has had all 5 shots it was bad but manageable. She is OK now.
On another side note I have 0 shots and stayed connected with my buddy several times going over paperwork in close contact 3 or 4 times touching things he touched and never got sick.
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I'm glad you are feeling better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stu
You are not the only one.
"Covid hospitalizations are almost double this time last year." quote CBC Oct 24/22
Very rare to get Covid from touching something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stu
Glad your friend is better.
"Covid hospitalizations are almost double this time last year." quote CBC Oct. 24/22
I didn't mean to imply that I got it from touching something. I just don't know where and when I managed to get it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharon
Sorry . I replied to the wrong post. Old age. :)
Both me and Mrs.T are triple vaxxed and waiting for Flu shots. Honestly,I'm done worrying about it.
Well I hope you have got your pneumonia shots and shingles shots, so there's more s to worry about.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
Wife is vaxed has got it 3 times and it lasts for 3-5days
I'm unvaxed got it twice lasted for 6h total
I'm more worried about why its ok to normalize SADS then Covid
I know about Shingles and still have to get it done (been saying that for 3 years now), but I have not heard of pneumonia shots. Is this another thing old people have to get? I thought these were suppose to become my Golden years seems to me I was told a bunch of crap.
I'm diabetic
need Shingles vaccine
Covid vaccine
Flu vaccine
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Originally Posted by Gilroy
Exactly, it's not just COVID; every virus is super-charged. My family has never been so sick as we have this year. We've had COVID, strange, hybridized flu and colds that are aggressive and don't abate, Hand-Foot-And-Mouth, bronchitis, and now I hear RSV (another respiratory illness) is on the rise in North America. Along with Tylenol and Aspirin shortages, apparently amoxicillin is also hard to find at this time. I've done my due diligence in getting vaccinated and stopping the spread over the past two+ years, but I'm tired of living in fear. I'm optimistic that 2023 will be better for everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
so this year your household has been sick, what's changed from other years?Quote:
Originally Posted by MeghanOOD
only people I know who are getting sick are the ones who have been diligent in getting the vax.
It truly is surprising that more people haven't sat back and wondered what has changed in their lives that's causing a sudden spike in poor health over years in the past
It seems the people I know that have been the sickest in the last 12 months are the people that are vaccinated for corvid. Not a scientific study but its what I'm seeing at a alarming rate in my circle of family, friends and co workers. Many others I have spoken to are seeing similar.Quote:
Originally Posted by MeghanOOD
Our youngest started daycare. It takes time to get their little selves used to everyday germs we're typically exposed to on the reg. Then try not catching your kids' souped-up cooties when they're clinging to you for comfort and you're rundown from being up with them in the night, for multiple nights. It's not a vaxx/no vaxx thing; it's a parents with young children adjusting to germs thing. But then again we're all readjusting to germs again, right? Takes time.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanE
Might be an interesting observation however if was factual one would expect too see the most vax and most at risk ,ie those in senior care, dropping like flies.Quote:
Originally Posted by GuyJR
Opposite here, the ones I know who are vaccinated were down for a day maybe 2 the others unvaccinated down for a week+
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Originally Posted by GuyJR
My wife is a day care teacher, comes home numerous times a year sick. Part of the job I guess, little kids are like large walking germs. But she has never had Covid.
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Originally Posted by MeghanOOD
Like I said just a observation. I try my best to take a balanced look at any controversial topic but just what Im seeing.Quote:
Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers
I wonder how many more "shots" we can take before we all glow in the dark?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
If we all died from taking these shots then the rest of the will also die as there will be almost no one to run critical infrastructure.
Humans would cease to exist in a very short time.
we are the only species on this planet who choose the weak to lead. if this continues yes, we will become extinctQuote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
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Originally Posted by MeghanOOD
Funny there was never a study on that prior coming to the market. Cdc admitted that it was spreading during delta times but ignored ,hide and insisted calling them breakthrough cases. When omicron came along it was said to vaccinate the kids knowing full well it doesn't stop transmission.
So if there was never a study done by pfizer before coming to market who thought vax passes were the only way out? Oh yeah it was from the WEF brain child,the group who Penetrated our government. Remember our unions made it mandatory without any evidence. If they took the evidence they would not have made it mandatory.
Now we have even more immune evasive strains . Wonder why?
Ps NY workers public and city get their jobs back and full back pay to those who lost their jobs from the mandates. Imagine that.
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LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
Although I'm thankful we can get a handle on some of these things as seniors; I had shingles. Terrible illness.
You're taking that out of context. My point being I did what was recommended at the time and I don't want to live in fear anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishfood
"Is anyone worried about a COVID resurgence?"
Not this guy. *points to self.* Come what may.
That being said, my attitude would probably be different if I was immunocompromised, in poor health, or in my later years of life. Everyone's situation is different. There is no solution that works for everyone; people are more complex than that.
Meghan, good well balanced replies you have put forward. For the record I am 73, 2 time cancer survivor and immunocompromized. I have not had the flu or a cold or even one day feeling sick since the start of Covid - is it the shots (5), the masking, the handwashing, the following of precautions that are not crazy - who knows. I just know that I am happy. I will continue to follow the recommendations of the proven experts. I do understand that everyone has the right to make their own decisions. Just hope we ALL stay healthy.
rodmcd
We should definitely not be living in fear.Quote:
Originally Posted by MeghanOOD
As for the resurgence of this winter I think it will be pretty fast waves Maybe 2 depending on the new variants but short lived. My concerns is the shape of the Hospital people are dying waiting to get in and it's not even close to peak season.. Maybe I took it out of context on my last post but saying we took took it to protect others is misleading when there was never a study done. I was called a racist, misogynist, non science believer and extremists by our pm when in reality there was not any science done about it.
We would get out of this pandemic alot faster I think if the government was honest and truthful. That I have said since the beginning but when we are following a narrative I guess that's all that matters to them.
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Covid can KMA!!
No more shots for this guy. I had it and it was like a mild cold. :) I have natural immunity and that will help me fight it next time I get it... :)
To each their own.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishfood
I mean it's not just the COVID hangover that's making things difficult right now; there are many ingredients in the pot. The government's not a scapegoat for absolutely everything. Global extenuating circumstances are to be considered, too.
I don't think he is talking about how long you have covid for or how fast you got better.Quote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
I believe he is talking picking up other bugs or seeking hospital attention maybe a new cancer or rejected transplants or suddenly dying. The leading cause of death in places are unknown deaths. 2 of my kids friends parents were rushed to hospital the same day after the boosters for suspected heart attacks 2 more of her friends parents died without a reason just died suddenly. There is a new documentary coming out in November about this but you won't see it on a&e or cnn lol.
Yes you won't get as sick from the covid from the shot but again it's showing you don't get the full immunity hence why we are seeing multiple infections a month or 2 after. Biden just took his fifth shot yet he had it twice in a short time . Same with the pfizer ceo got it twice they both had rebound from the paxlovid. Same with Dr Drew's kid covid again after a month after using paxlovid.
I was sick about 8 days so a week plus for me. What's the difference between a few days? At the time we all still had a 10 day isolation period.
How many days did kids have it without the jab? Just a few days ?
Our top doctor did say 1 in 5000 had a serous adverse reaction. That number I think is the conservative number expect it to be lower than that, that number is from the instant one that happened right away. . It's like vers they have this system in place for a reason then ignore it and say we can't trust that. Then why is it there lol. New studies supposed to be posted at the cdc but they have delayed it shows i think 7 percent saw medical attention after the jab and 24% missed days off work. It involved millions big study but like always they are slow to post what they don't want shown. Like the trials when they tried to not release the studies for 75 years lol.
Ps is it a good or bad thing the shots not stopping the infection. ? What happens ?
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If they are telling the truth there shouldn’t be so many things in question. Lots of things they said about the vaccine aren’t true.
Anyone have time to list them all?
It was like a filthy used car salesman.
In fairness I would like to also see a list of things they said about the vaccines are true.
rodmcd
Someone should also reveal the HUGE surge in the "unknown cause of death "lately ,worldwide.
That alone speaks volumes about this mess.
I think-at the begining, they were onto something good(new ,deadly,fast spreading,unknown,worldwide illness)
All that "good thing"died when things slowed down,when big Pharma took over,when all the WHOO-HOO Politicians lined up in favour(or vworse yet)pushed for the jab.
All took nasty turn-when this "hype"was not stopped ,about a year ago.
Then all the side effect-conveninetly working for the many Talentless Politicians-the Dole and free for all(well -free at least for most of all),the inflation,the economical impact.
Then-nowadays,pushing Covid like it is 2020.
Shame and crime.
No surprise,many are sceptical(at best).
Hogwash this scale is unrecorded in the history of mankind.
No. Because there was no pandemic to begin with, it was all media driven.
They lied about everything just to get people to take the Clot Shots.
BTW - if you "trusted the science" - you are part of a new religion. Even the CEO of Pfizer has declared "we don't know how the vaccine works"
It's magic!
But get your boosters, wear your masks and social distance!
It worked so well last time.
Actually he did not say that.
I know of several that died from Covid, a few that were very very very sick and have never really recovered (They got covid long before the shot was available). I also know many who got Covid and as you said it felt like a cold to them.
Myself I have never got it and I haven't had a cold in 7 years or anything else probably due to the fact for seven years I was working as a contractor and was never really around very many people.
Could also be that my smoking and beer drinking keeps Covid away. ;)
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Originally Posted by old outdoorsman
I believe the key is the people who died with covid (maybe not because of covid, not sure) were mainly in the beginning of the virus. As with any virus known to mankind, as it mutates it becomes less deadly, not more deadly. Media says it becomes more dangerous, but the truth is it just becomes more easily transmitted but to a weaker degree. When and if we do get a virus that becomes stronger as it mutates, mankind is toast. Viruses want to survive just like any other lifeform, so they will not want to kill their host as any parasite that does that does not have a good life expectancy. I challenge anyone to name 1 virus that became stronger and more deadly as it evolved.
Thus finishes my personal science lesson for the morning, roast away and have a great Christmas.
John Doctorate of real life learning
Many scientists that got censored from the beginning talked about their conserns over a leaky vaccines.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnjyb
This was from 2015 so the media could be correct . It's also my worry when the drug vax comes out it may biuld immunity in the ones who take it leading to a heavier dose then killing everyone who is not vaxxed.
A leaky vaccine can lead to a more dangerous pathogens to the unvaccinated.
"Our data show that anti-disease vaccines that do not prevent transmission can create conditions that promote the emergence of pathogen strains that cause more severe disease in unvaccinated hosts."
https://journals.plos.org/plosbiolog...l.pbio.1002198
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There has been some very worrisome news out of China now they have lifted a lot of restrictions. Let's all be safe and careful.
Merry Christmas.
rodmcd
China also has a lot of CommunismQuote:
Originally Posted by rodmcd
Not sure if I understand this. Is it too early in the morning for me to figure it out. Can you help me out? Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanE
rodmcd
Don’t know what he means, but I wouldn’t trust anything coming out of China.
Most people, or maybe many at least do not believe the majority of "information" posted on our free world news which will have a political slant. Now look at "news information" coming out of a communist state that completely controls the media narrative and it is not very easy to believe any of theirs.
John
A good documentary if ya haven't seen it yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by old outdoorsman
Long but sums it up.
A must watch for everyone.
https://librti.com/view-video/uninformed-consent
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As per the original post, I'm not worried; no value in worrying. However, At 76 with Parkinson's disease , I take every precaution easily available.
Not worried at all, haven't changed much of what I do since it began. Still go hunting, fishing, camping and still visit friends.
Other than news in China, there hasn’t been that much covid related news that I’ve heard. I’m surprised we’re still talking about it.
Wait until there is a disaster like a Carrington type of event, now that would be exciting. ;)
Like the next one the gates foundation has predicted for 2025 seers . Event 201 months before it happened and the mpoX both had videos made just before it went around.Quote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
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It's sad to see so many people still blind to the fact that the government is your enemy and the pandemic was fake.
Yes, there was a bug going around, but the severity was greatly over-stated. All to get everyone (or as many as possible) to comply with clot shots.
People are dying all over of "suddenly" and the masses continue to refuse to see they were duped.
I do not think hundreds of different governments Worldwide, of all political stripes suddenly decided that creating a fake pandemic would be a good idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by old outdoorsman
Yes there was definitely a very serious bug going around which resulted in some folks ending up on respirators and some other folks who already were suffering from conditions, these were made very worse.
If you did not get the "clot shot" then good for you that is your choice, for others it was their choice to get it.
I do not think you need to worry about what others did or did not do, we will all be fine.
I appreciate your response and I agree that to take the shot or not should have been everyone's personal choice and people should not have been coerced into getting it just to keep their job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Unfortunately we are not at the end of this, just the beginning. MODERNA is building a giant vaccine facility in Quebec, partially funded by tax dollars even though they've made millions in profit these last few years.
Too bad the government doesn't share your support in personal choice as they are ramping up 'vaccine passports' in conjunction with the WEF.
It isn't about health - it never was. It's about control.
Then the question you need to ask is WHO WANTS CONTROL. So on a personal level:Quote:
Originally Posted by old outdoorsman
My son works in the City of Toronto, he was basically forced to get the vaccine or would have been suspended or worse. So in this case the City of Toronto and their solicitors exercised control.
My one daughter works for herself and could not work for over a year and a half, the controlling agent was the Alberta Government.
My other daughter work's in the dental profession, she had to change the whole office and mask up. The controlling agent was the Canadian and Ontario dental associations.
Thousands of work places either initiated control or did not.
So in the end half my family is vaccinated and the other half is not. I would have to say the control did not work that well.
Well they sure took advantage of it and even used it as an opportunity to further their agenda. Manipulated most of the numbers in their favor censored doctors and scientists that spoke out as we are to use their science only." Manipulated " gun shot victims become covid deaths from the way we counted them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Most kids had covid already before the shots came out then put in more mandates when they never even tested it if the vaccine stopped the transmission Manipulated. Even australia stopped posting their vaccinated status when it showed how many vaccinated people are getting ill and hospitalized and deaths Manipulated.
About the new kraken I predicted a new variant in August said it was just around the corner. Told and asked a few people they thought I was crazy ,I said we got omicron after the vax new vaccines came out I said it could spark a new variant lol. Thats what the censoring of scientists did they said this could happen and i watched it play out.
Rumor has it 80 % are going to get it again in the next couple of months. I predict a peak by late March.
Cases are back to doubling again.
Trust the science "brought to you by pfizer" lol.
Since when did our prime Minister become a doctor and push an experimental drug not even a vaccine on it's people. Then call the rest names and call out the unvaccinated basically calling them terrorists.
I don't believe our government they lied to many times to trust them.
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I'm not worried about a resurgence. No virus is as closely watched by medical authorities and pharmaceutical companies have shown considerable deftness in quickly developing vaccines in response to the latest mutation. Society has, for the most part, a handle on what this thing is and we are now treating it as an endemic threat similar to how we manage the annual flu.
This forum needs a "like" button.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishfood
only if we also get a " shake your head and shrug your shoulders" buttonQuote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
LOL Exactly! :)
Dang, another keyboard I have to clean coffee out of. :DQuote:
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Do we have an emoji for that?Quote:
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Would this work?Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
https://www.lakesimcoeoutdoors.com/f...cons/horse.gif
or this?
https://www.lakesimcoeoutdoors.com/f...s/facepalm.gif
but mostly its like...
https://www.lakesimcoeoutdoors.com/f...s/wallbash.gif
Find me the "flogging a dead horse" gif.Quote:
Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers
I'm afraid we'll see it all too often here if I doQuote:
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I brought one over from Anglers Ontario a while back, but can't remember which of my 40 hard drives it's on.Quote:
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